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Everyone Please check this out!

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Wow your an arrogant peice of **** arent ya? Who is doing it for drops, We just want to do it for fun....does everything have to be about drops and who gets what? Isnt this a game? and arent games supposed to be fun?

spamming whitegate isn't enough for these people...

I even went to their site after seeing this and seeing Xeaon and Spicksix running this event was enough for me to laugh and laugh again.

set a new record LOL!

if you've ever seen a RL pic of Xaeon he looks to be as big a tool in RL as he is in this game.

the funniest part is him saying that more people = more power.... I for one might bring my DRG10!! dragon killer effect kicks *** i hear :P

oh yea and spicksix saying that their LS has priorty on the world serpent slayer title. isn't that from jimmy up on the mountain?

so yea everyone show up! they obviously know what they are doing. right? umm...? right?

Read my last post again. It doesn't cost anything to host a Vrtra event such as this. Please open your eyes and see what they're trying to do. It's quite obvious.

Dynamis is open to everyone for alot of other linkshells as well. You can say that you don't charge anyone to attend but this is because you use the currency to fund it and you've been doing this well before the Vrtra event got posted I'm sure. This event (dynamis) is only limited to 64 people I believe or somewhere around that. It's safe to say that your LS members would get priority.

According to your site you have about 64 people labeled at "Vertigo Members" and 3 others as admins. So chances are many people who attend these other events won't be able to make it to the dynamis because there won't be room for them.

Dynamis is the only real event that requires an upfront cost to do. The 3 wyrms don't as well as many other things. So if you can that you're going to use the gil from the drops to fund dynamis then what are you going to do with the other gil that won't be used for the hourglass? Keep it for yourselves I'm sure. And let's not forget about the currency that you no longer need to sell to pay for the hourglass.

Face it, you're using everyone on the server for your own profit. You're telling everyone this is for fun yet you keep the drops to help "fund" other events that really don't cost anything at all.

Yeah thats right everyone on the server is being enslaved. Get a grip man if you dont want to go dont go.

Edited, Feb 25th 2007 4:34pm by Sicklove

So, Gamion..what you are trying to say is....if I understand it right...If you don't like it...don't come? Does that about sum it up? That's what I got out of it anyways...nono..don't thank me, I don't mind helping the people who can't figure it out..coughBalgarethcough

"We're scamming a bunch of endgame noobs into making gil for our LS. If you're not dumb enough to fall for it, please refrain from talking to anyone who is dumb enough!"

Wow. GTFO

QFT.

edit: This reminds me of when my dumbass friend was being scammed by a guy on the street with 3 cups and a ball (that one). I told my friend not to waste his money and the scammer got REALLY defensive about it not being a scam, and almost got violent with me. Luckily my friend finally realized what was going on and didn't lose his money.

"But this doesn't cost people anything, it's just for fun, cockbreath."

Oh really? TIME IS MONEY. Should I go spend a couple hours fishing and send you the gil, since it was just for fun? GTFO.

If people are dumb enough to go help this LS get cloth, I can't stop them, but I won't quietly sit back and act like it's "OK" to exploit people like this...

Edited, Feb 27th 2007 3:22pm by TheRielist

Quoted for what truth? So because they say it's being used to fund future events and not being distributed to the attendees then that proves that they are ripping people off? Excuse me but your little 3 cups and ball metaphor has one little flaw. In that example you gave...oh how shall I say it...the people participating were unaware that they are getting scammed. People who go to this event know full well beforehand (as I've stated earlier in the thread) that they will not be receiving the funds from the cloth, or the cloth itself.

So because your 3 cupped and balls dude from your story got defensive that must mean that everyone who ever gets defensive is trying to scam others. God forbid they ever get defensive because someone is spewing lies and ruining everything they worked hard on to organize.

If you want to send me the gil from your fishing go right ahead. Once again, and I used the term appropriately and I will once again "cockbreath", it is not a waste of time or money, because if you do not like the terms they have set, then DO...NOT...SHOW...UP.

I once again repeat. I don't see any problem with people speaking their mind and saying "oh I don't think that's fair." But don't go around spewing rumors. Rumors bleed lies. So you don't like the terms they set. Every single endgame LS that holds public events does the same thing. You're telling me you have a problem with every other LS that holds events putting restrictions on which items can be lotted on, or even when you are allowed to lot on them (the number of times you've been to one of their events), if you are not a member, if you can even lot at all in some instances.

Don't try to act self-righteous and start righting every wrong unless your willing to go and ***** at all of the other endgame LS's about how corrupt they are because members have priority. Because until you start doing that, you're making yourself look like an arrogant jackass who is only doing this to create a bad name for people who are trying hard to make their LS work.

This all boils down to one thing which puts your entire argument in the *******. The participants know full well what they are getting into before they do. Therefore, they are not scamming anyone. If people choose to participate anyway then that is their choice. Your arguments regarding scamming is pointless because it is 1) not scamming if they know, and 2) you say you want to make people aware they are being exploited. Well guess what? The terms are laid out plainly for all to see so people can make that decision for themself. Making posts in a thread isn't raising people's awareness any higher, because the level of awareness they have already attained, they have received from reading the rules of the event. All you are serving to do is to further soil a LS's name for whatever personal reasons you have.


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Edited, Feb 27th 2007 6:03pm by Gamion

I'm just surprised there are so many people so bitter at life that all they do is ***** on alla about a fictional world.

Amen Moonpie. If I go, it wont be for zomg 1337 drops, it'll just be to say "Hey, I killed Vrtra" or "Hey, I got wtfpwned by Vrtra."

I appreciate the open invite, and I don't appreciate Reil sticking his nose in others business. It's not like you have a stake in anyone's interest who attends, so why do you care? If they're "getting taken advantage of", then let them if that's what they want to do.

Think about what you wrote here, spell my name right, then TRY AGAIN. This is a public forum. I saw an event posted, and commented that I think this event is bullsh*t. I've spoken with Thend ingame about this, as I've known him awhile, and I'd like to clarify a couple things:

The word "scam" is a bit harsh, but if the LS is keeping all drops then saying "it's just for fun" means you can't also say "but we're keeping all the drops" and call yourself honest. You can't have it both ways.

I would (if allowed by my endgame shell which I'm not) probably attend the event in question if everyone had a chance at drops, or got a share. I would go assuming I'd get nothing, because I think killing the mob (or trying) would be fun, or at least a learning experience. However, I would not go KNOWING the people running the event were using me for more than fun...

Develop a system where every person who comes has a chance to lot or gets a share of the loot, or hell CFH on the mob... THEN come tell people on a forum you killed Vrtra just for fun :)



Edited, Feb 28th 2007 10:14am by TheRielist

I don't see how "it's just for fun" conflicts with "but we're keeping all the drops". Care to clarify a bit further so I can see it from your point of view?





So it's ok for you to comment on stuff but when other people respond with their own opinions you have to give comments like that? Not that I'm offended, merely curious at your logic.

Edited, Feb 28th 2007 5:01pm by Gamion