loverboi threatened by a mentorFollow

today a mentor said he was going to change into a red mage and kill me and someone else for being "noobs". when he found out i was telling on him to the GMs, he said i was "mocking a 71 red mage" and that he was going to ruin my reputation by smearing me on this forum. so that's the short version. if you want to know more, read on...

i was in a party in yuhtunga jungle when our primary healer fell asleep (literally). 2 of our party died as a result. the mentor in our party began to verbally assault a blm/whm standing nearby for not helping. i quote him "in this game people help each other". he kept calling the blm/whm a "noob". the blm/whm retorted that he was out of mp at the time (probably true, i saw him in a recovering position during our battle). as things got uglier between the two of them i began using <call> to try to wake up our party's healer. as i did so, the mentor kept telling me to stop calling. well, actually, "stop f***ing calling" is what he said. i was already irritated by his squabbling and put-downs so i told him to turn down the volume or press mute. he then started to verbally assault me as a "noob" as well. i promptly left the party thereafter. his friend who invited him to the party told me "he know's what he's doing". i replied "maybe in the game, but he doesn't know how to treat other people, and that's something that no amount of 'exp' can teach". i apologized to the blm/whm who the mentor had been mocking and told him i would report the matter to a GM. as soon as the mentor found out, he sent me tells saying that he would give me "a real good reputation on the server forums, lmfao". the GM told me i should blacklist him, but couldn't help me anything past that.

so...
many of you have played with me and know what kind of person i am. so if this mentor does go around smearing me, well i'll let my name speak for itself. i am still giving this mentor the honor of not disclosing his name. but if he does go around smearing me on these forums, i will be happy to disclose everything. the vast majority of mentors i have met in the game have been helpful, knowledgable and courteous.

if you are so kind as to respond to this thread with your input i would be most appreciative.

cerberus & solhaeven 4ever!!! woot!!!
-loverboi

First off, I thought mentors were suppose to have higher standards then the norm, but I guess anyone can get the job. Sucks for the new players that need/want help to have to deal with an attitude like the mentor you refer to.

Second, I commend you on leaveing the party after the mess the mentor caused. It takes alot to leave, especially, if it is a good party. I know, I have left a good party because the leader and another squabbled and bickered over the party chat and used racial slurs and the like. I know that leaving caused the other 3 good players some hassle, and I apologized. ITs a matter of respect.. respect for other players (of which the mentor had none) and respect for yourself.

Last, a good or bad reputation in Vana'diel is EARNED. Hardly have I seen one aquired simply by one person running off at the mouth. Also, it nice that you apologized to the other mage that he was putting down, but you should not have to apologize for actions that are not yours. YOU did nothing to be sorry for!

Good Luck in the future.. and keep posting.

That's ridiculous, a Mentor is meant to help and offer suggestions. They are NOT supposed to put people down and use vulgar language and call people "noobs". So what if the blm in the other party didn't heal, it's not his obligation to heal anyone but his own party and only then in dire situations. Obviously this RDM has little or no respect for his fellow players, although for some reason I always seem to notice that Kazham and related areas always seem to have the biggest jerks in them for some reason.

I would also like to praise you for being the mature one in that instead of arguing you just left the party and ESPECIALLY for not "smearing his name all over these forums." You could just have as easily gave his name on this thread but you kept it anonymous which shows a great deal more maturity then this RDM showed to anyone.

My suggestion is if your that frustrated playing in the game that you ruin it for others as well as yourself, take a break from it. Heaven forbid you don't spend at least 12 hours a day playing, I hate to tell some people but there is a real world out there with real people that you can see, touch, and do physical activity with... So basically what I am saying is get out more! If you get that worked up over a game it's not worth it.

I agree with Amanda.. you do not NEED the 'mentor' flag to be a mentor. You have to be a helpful approchable person. When the mentor program started it was great.. ppl wanted to be flagged so they could be helpful.. now.. some ppl use it as a sign of 'power'.

thank u so much everyone for cheering me up - i felt really awful after the incident, but i am convinced that most people out there are decent beings who want to treat others with respect. now that i've posted on this forum and received your input, it really feels like i'm part of a unique and fun community. thanks again and i hope to see you all online.

-loverboi
solhaeven & cerberus 4ever!!!
^^

You would think that the "mentor" requirements should be higher to appropriately suit a true mentor. All that's required is that you're L30 and rank3 I believe. Honestly, when I hit L30 as my WAR (first job) and had rank3 I immediately suited up and participated in the mentor idea. Put it up and defintely did not feel right. I thought of myself still a noob, and no idea on what I was really supposed to do. I don't think many people out there understand the concept of being a mentor aside from the fact that "the icon on top of my head is cool~" If the player was truely a L71 RDM making those comments, I bet he bought an account off IGE or something, lol~ You did the right thing in leaving the PT...because that's certainly what I would have done if an idiot kept calling me a noob and harrassing me. /blist him and forget about it. Pray that you never have a situation with a person like that again.

I always thought that the requirements to obtain Mentor were too low. I think it should be a level 50, with Rank 5, position. Either that, or they should create a "Mentor II" option. It'd be easy to adjust the current "M" icon to an "M2" to differentiate between the two (as well as possibly a different color).

Heh!

im sure there are good mentors out there who really do help,

but not for me last night, came across a 42rdm who didn't know how to use Refresh......at all

im a whm and the blm in my party could not understand why he wouldn't cast it on us.

finally we would SPAM like crazy ~Refresh~ ~Refresh~.

this is a quote "im ont gonna waste my mana on you guys"

yeah our leader kicked him right away, lol

so this just leads me to believe the whole mentor thing is a bunch of Bull crap!

When you really look at the mentor program, it's really geared for helping people from 1-10 (I'd say 1-5 because of the ? symbol but 1-10 seems more likely). Anyone rank 3 level 31 has potentially more experience than someone with a mentor symbol.

As for raising the requirements, I don't think that'd work. I used to think having the requirements as rank 5 level 50 would be better but last night in Quicksands, some of the soon to be (or currently) level 50 people aren't much better than what I saw in Khazam or Qufim.

It's funny how light-headed people get when a world is flying next to their head.

ill help out ne1 who ask. however, the "hey can i have some gil" has led me to /mentor off. but, if ne1 needs help w/ something other than free gil i.e. sub job items, rank3 dragons, and so on send /tell enik. please do not ask for power levels. ty