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New HNM LS!!!! Looking for members!!!Follow

#1 Dec 25 2004 at 5:37 AM Rating: Decent
Hello,
I would like to announce the birth of a new HNM LS on cerberus server, the name is LunaCry, and we are currently working very hard to make this the strongest and best HNM LS on our server, we are doing things that no other HNM LS has done before.....

Here is a few basics to our new Linkshell:
-ONLY PLAYERS LVL 60+ are allowed.
-We will have a total of 5 leaders running this Linkshell (Munkey,Frederz,Kiilboi,Shanel, and Stephaniel) at least one leader should be on at all times.
-each leader will keep track of all windows and ToD to our knoledge.
-leaders will be the ones to sell drop from HNM fight and to make sure that money is split correctly.
-Events other than HNM fights will be available for all pearl holders to attend, (missions, quest, etc., etc.)
-There will also be regular LS meetings, that every leader will attend, pearl holders are also welcome.
The Unit payouts......
This is how the gil from each HNM fight will be split:
Example..... a party of 4 receives a 5 milion gil drop from a HNM fight,
Lets say Levels in party are 75,67,73,60.
all the Levels will be added together (75+67+73+60)= 275
the 5 million gil would be divided by 275 (5000000/275= 18182 gil)
at this point the 18182 gil would be considered a "unit",
each player would receive one unit for each LVL that they have, example: the LVL 75 player would receive 75 units (1363650 gil), the LVL 67 would receive 67 units (1218194 gil) and so on, this will make sure that people that have worked hard on their LVL will be rewarded in a better way.
As of right now we are currently accepting new members LVL 60+, we will only give out pearls for so many days, so make sure that if you are interested or have any questions to please feel free to send me an email: Frederz@aol.com or ask Frederz or Munkey on the game.
We are working very hard to be the best HNM LS on this server and we will not let our work go to waste.


#2 Dec 25 2004 at 7:34 AM Rating: Decent
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That's interesting...so you're saying that the lvl 60 hasn't worked as hard as the lvl 74? I know some pretty lazy 70+ folks. /ponder
#3 Dec 25 2004 at 8:22 AM Rating: Decent
I agree you may want to rethink your payout method, I know that I would not want to particpate in a HNM hunt if I am not entitled to a equal payout as everyone else.

Example we are hunting some High lvl monster and I die then not only do I lose experience, but then I apparently have not tried as hard as a lvl 75 player in the fight cause im only 67 and weak. That is not right in my mind. But hey i'm only 67 so maybe I'll change at 75 =/.

Thats just my 2 cents
#4 Dec 25 2004 at 12:52 PM Rating: Decent
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frederz i'll be interested, once i get blm over 60. i'll keep ya posted^^
#5 Dec 25 2004 at 3:21 PM Rating: Default
well the reason for the units pay out system is made to attract high level players to this hnm ls, and to give players under 60 that extra push to put some extra effort into becoming a higher level, belive it or not i am lvl60, so this system will kinda work against me, but.... HNMs have large payouts each person would still receive a very nice ammount of gil no matter what level they are, also.... this system will get more high level players involved in each hnm fight, example: you are a level 65... would you rather share a drop with 18 level 60-65 players or share with 10 level 73-75 players? the more high level players are involved in each fight, the less people are needed to win the fight, we have put alot of tought into this idea, and we are pretty confidet that it will work out very well for everyone not just level 75 players, everyone is welcome to give it a try, never hurts to try ^.^
#6 Dec 25 2004 at 8:02 PM Rating: Good
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But what about cases when someone in the HNM party needs the drop.
#7 Dec 25 2004 at 9:55 PM Rating: Decent
lol good luck. you're going to need it.
#8 Dec 25 2004 at 10:57 PM Rating: Good
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and we are currently working very hard to make this the strongest and best HNM LS on our server


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ol good luck. you're going to need it.



I second that one...and lots and lots of time...sometimes i wonder if people even realize that being a dedicated hnmls, hell even a regular ls requires lots of time and effort and more then just a post on a forum and some new members. Not trying to be rude or anything but make sure you know what you are getting yourself into...and hnm are pointless before 70...i mean why would you bother killing nm with 18 lvl 60-75 when you can kill with 2-3 75?
#9 Dec 25 2004 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
I know 2-3 75's could kill a normal HNM like Sim or Roc, but think of how hard it would be to claim it with only 3 people when another ls has 12 camped around its huge spawn area. Every linkshell isnt going to be perfect, but we are starting one with a new idea.
#10 Dec 26 2004 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't think it's a bad idea to pay out in proportion to levels. It encourages leveling, and high-level participation. As someone mentioned, the level 60s are basically just there to help claim the monster, you only really need those three 75s for the actual fight. A level 75 is still only getting 25% more for that extra value compared to a level 60, and that's the maximum differential. So... I'm interested to hear how this turns out (if you need a level 26 gimme a call ^^). New ideas are always good, as long as I don't bear the risk.
#11 Dec 26 2004 at 5:42 AM Rating: Default
if someone in the LS needs the drop they are more than welcome to put together a party and start an hnm hunt, same concept as helping someone with their AF armor, i am sure that people in LS will not have problem helping a friend get the item they need for free, at least i know i dont have a problem with it, so i would be more than heppy to help as long as item is really needed.
#12 Dec 27 2004 at 2:41 AM Rating: Decent
What you have to understand is that HNM payout is not a reward for killing the mob itself, but the time you spent waiting for the claim and fight it. To tell a a lower level he doesn't deserve as much, even though he spent as much time waiting for the mob, is unfair.

With your system you are saying the higer levels are more important, therefore, they get more. So inherantly if the lower level gets the claim doesn't he deserve more because the high level wouldn't be able to fight it if it wasn't for the low levels claim? I mean the high level wouldn't have had a chance to even kill it if it weren't for the lower level claiming it. Doesn't that esentially raise the level 65's importance in that fight vastly higher than that of the level 75, who stood like a goon till the 65 claimed it?

This system is jacked, good luck finding people who want to sign up to be screwed.

#13 Dec 27 2004 at 4:26 AM Rating: Default
hehe, looks like we had lots of "luck" finding people to join us, within the first 2 days of this post being up, not only we received 14 tells from people of LVLs anywhere from 59 to 75 wanting to join, but we were also asked if a different HNM LS with 27 LVL60+ could merge with us, thank you for wishing us good luck but as you can see doesnt look like we will need it! unlike some people, we dont rely on luck, so for who ever that doesnt agree with our system of payout, i have an idea that will solve your peoblems, dont join, is that simple.
To everyone else that decided to join us and be part of LunarCry, thank you for your support!!!!!! and pearls will be given out very soon!!!!!
#14 Dec 27 2004 at 5:21 AM Rating: Decent
Suprizingly enough, 20 minutes after posting my last post and logging to to level my Nin, frederz was warm enough to harass me enlightening me as to why he is working on strike 3 of permanent ban. Then shortly after that, his friend Killboi was generous enough to spam my chat window with a flurry of cursing and "your mother jokes". Ahhh, budding leadership mixed with immaturity and the inabilty to handle critisim... Now that's the stuff of successful LS's, eh?(sarcasm) Anyway...

If this is any example as to how the LS is going to be moderated, I would suggest reselecting a LS promptly. Now if you prefer being harrassed, cheated out of your fair share, and generally like the company of immature 14 year olds, you've found a home that I'm fairly sure no other could beat. However, I feel that my experience with these 2 idiots is just an example of the crap they pull everyday.

Oh, and so they don't harass me some more, I'll give them some help. Recruit Lordandrew he will fit in with you perfectly. Hey and here's an another great idea, rename your LS the TOOLbox, cause I can't think of a better place for you 2 tools to hang out.
#15 Dec 27 2004 at 5:54 AM Rating: Default
lol funny how i actually had to blist you, for everyones information thanks to our post we have a total of 46 members, go ahead and bash who ever you like, we have much better things to do with our time than to argue with a pathetic loser such as yourself, no one harrased you, no one cares about what a person like you has to say over a videogame, the first goal set by our LS was exceeded, therefore i suggest you find someone else to bash, every person that knows who we are, has nothing but the best things to say about us, im sure judging by your attitude you couldnt say the same about yourself, it is just sad to see how pathetic and frustraded some poeple can get over a video game, try and enjoy the game for once with out harassing and insulting people that have done nothing to you, Get a life, looks like you might needed.
#16 Dec 27 2004 at 6:21 AM Rating: Decent
I think its funny how everyone on this server doesnt like Lordandrew, I dont know how everyone knows him, but hes famous for being the "town idiot". :P
#17 Dec 27 2004 at 6:31 AM Rating: Decent
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lol funny how i actually had to blist you, for everyones information thanks to our post we have a total of 46 members, go ahead and bash who ever you like, we have much better things to do with our time than to argue with a pathetic loser such as yourself, no one harrased you, no one cares about what a person like you has to say over a videogame, the first goal set by our LS was exceeded, therefore i suggest you find someone else to bash, every person that knows who we are, has nothing but the best things to say about us, im sure judging by your attitude you couldnt say the same about yourself, it is just sad to see how pathetic and frustraded some poeple can get over a video game, try and enjoy the game for once with out harassing and insulting people that have done nothing to you, Get a life, looks like you might needed.


Well... You see I'm not the one randomly /telling people so I can harass them. I've also never been suspended before, something that you cannot say. Amazingly, you were stupid enough to actaully say the things you did knowing the standing your account is on.

I'm also not frustrated over a game, I just stated a simple fact that people were being ***** by your system and I stand by it. You are the one that took offense to it. Killboi almost had an anurism. They are going to find him dead, wedged between the bathroom sink and the toilet, tommarow morning. I find your reactions more than comical. My friends and I were laughing for over 20 minutes reading what you and Killboi sent.

Serisouly, you need to learn to take critisim. I mean theres no reason to cry about what I said. What do you want? Me to admit you aren't ******** people? That's not going to happen. The fact is I think you are frustrated because no one wants to join your LS. I don't beleive you have over 43 people. Don't take it out on me because no one wants to associate with you.

You have 1 more person on the server that now think's you are a tool, along with the droves of others. You have anger management issues. I think this is funny, but I know I'm pissing you off to no end. So ask yourself, who is really frustrated? It's not me, I get a kicked out of watching children throwing fruitless tantrums. It's a good thing you put me on your ban list because now I won't show up when you go to look for me. Tell Killboi to put me on there too. God knows I won't be sad to never hear from you two again.
#18 Dec 27 2004 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
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IMO this is only to enrich the higher lvls, if we are all part of the HNM battles, it should be equal pay-outs for everyone involved, thats called fairness, in your case is called a rip-off, and I believe people should be stupid or retarded or don't care about their input to fall for that scam, I was interested, but after reading through, I'll have to say {No Thanks, but I'll have to pass the offer}.

I totally agreed with affliction on how screwed your payout method will be, but if someone {LOWEST LVL IN THAT LS} is willing to camp a HNM 24/7 AND ONLY GET LETS SAY 350K gil while the other guy got 850k gil, lets welcome them to the world of exploitation and low self-steem bureau, the right linkshell will divide any drops equitatively regardless of levels, thats how it works.

Any self-respecting player will not stand for less reward than the Joe blow guy next to him, regardless of lvls. is either equal treatment or none at all.

I almost forgot, is there any retro-active bonus for those low lvls members once they reach that lvl 75? think about it.



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#19 Dec 27 2004 at 3:23 PM Rating: Default
Affliction, here is proof that we have 45+ members....
we absorbed your LS, good luck finding a new one buddy, LMFAO

Edited, Mon Dec 27 15:24:15 2004 by frederz
#20 Dec 27 2004 at 3:23 PM Rating: Default
Double post

Edited, Mon Dec 27 15:23:42 2004 by frederz
#21 Dec 27 2004 at 4:16 PM Rating: Decent
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You absorbed ittoryu!?

You bastards!

edit: for those that dont get it its a south park ref..

now seriously did you take ppl from ittoryu?

Edited, Mon Dec 27 16:16:25 2004 by CerebusMag
#22 Dec 27 2004 at 7:28 PM Rating: Decent
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well well... turns out the rumors are true after all.
I joined up this afternoon under the urgings of my some of my
friends only to hear later The reputation and story of the children running this linkshell.
What a mistake I made.
I reread the post about the money situation
I must have skimmed over the part about useing the lower level
players like myself to make the higher level players rich...
*note to self read more carefully*
My final thought on this and some on these boards may or may not
agree with me but time will tell. Either way I care not.

Absorb whatever linkshell you want absorb whatever homless strays you can find.
But in the end all the smart players will leave you and you will be left with nothing. Because of your
actions and attitudes both past and presant will make and secure
your place among the ranks of Lordandrew and all the others.
Now go ahead rate me down blacklist me whatever you like.
Consider the peral you handed me earlier dropped.
(edited for grammer and punctuation mistakes)
Edited, Mon Dec 27 19:29:23 2004 by Pharnum

Edited, Mon Dec 27 19:31:18 2004 by Pharnum
#23 Dec 27 2004 at 9:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Frederz, all you're doing is showing how immature you are with your recent posts on this thread, and no one is gonna join your LS unless

A) They're friends
B) They're impatient and wanna do HNMs just to get there and die
C) They're stupid enough to

As a PLD, I'm looking forward to the challenge of HNMs, just like CoP was, but I'm not going to get killed by something like King Behemoth just to get a smaller share than a 75 is because of stupid payout system that's going to be the fall of this HNM LS

BTW, I somehow doubt you convinced enough people to leave a LS to destory it just to join some stupid LS that won't work out later on in the future

Edited, Mon Dec 27 22:42:36 2004 by Corrderio
#24 Dec 28 2004 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, it's not that difficult of a task to avoid the "being cheated" problem. You're assuming that every camping party will include a very large range between the levels involved. Now say the people involved are all between say 65-70, the payouts are going to be fairly equal. Still a bit different, but not so bad.

It's the same sort of idea that goes into experience parties. You don't want someone much higher than you sucking up all the experience now, do you? Think about it.
#25 Dec 28 2004 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
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moreana who's to stop the higher or lower lvls to go help kill the nm lets say the lvl 60-65 are hanging out waiting for the hnm to pop, obviously they can't take it all on their own... then the higher lvls come down and kill it. now both the lower lvl and the higher lvl are needed in this situation. lower lvl to camp the mob and higher lvl to kill it. The lower lvl also has a higher chance of death because they have to kite the mob around until the higher lvls come.

the lower lvl has wasted his time because while he was camping this mob he could have been lfp or exping so he could get "more pay out" but instead he's here camping the mob.

the higher lvl just comes down and helps kill the mob but all the rest of the time is in jeuno or doing something else. while the lower lvl or who ever camping it is pretty much stuck in that area.

sooo who deserves more gil? the one who spends all his time waiting around for the mob or the one that kills it?
#26 Dec 28 2004 at 5:41 AM Rating: Default
hmmm, lets give all of us a favor and read my first post again..... unfortunately i am still unable to find the part that says "tell me what you think and give me your opinion" this is a forum, yes, people respond to comments left by other people, but no one ever asked for an opinion on the payout system used, the post was about joining a HNM LS, never asked for the reason why you wouldnt join, and never asked for an opinion. just like moreana said it kinda works out like a Level gap in a exp party, now, i dont see anyone calling SE dumb for giving lower exp to the people at the lower part of the level gap, after all they are the weaker people in the party and most times the ones to die first, does that mean that SE is ripping off lower level players in a party by giving them less exp?
well once again since some of you guys have trouble registering what you read, no one has ever asked for your opinion on the payout system, this was a post to get interested players a HNM LS, if they dont like our ideas, guess what, dont join, and that eliminates the problem, kinda funny how something is automaticly wrong and dumb if for some reason you dont like the idea, give people the freedom to do what they want, as long as it doesnt hurt you, why would you ever sit here and waste your time bashing an idea, when no one ever asked for your opinion, it seems to me like some people do not have a life, and use their time trying to make other people feel bad about themselfs, i have a suggestion, try to somehow get a real life and dont take other people ideas so personal.
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