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#27 Dec 28 2004 at 7:33 AM Rating: Decent
I understand what everyone means about the "Cheating" idea, but on certain HNM's that are of a higher level, I know that the whole reason they are defeated are from the higher levels. At the first time I fought Adamant King (I was 66 blm) ALL of my spells were getting resisted, very badly too, Thunder III was only doing 56 damage, and even when I used elemental Seal + flare, it only did 450 damage. Some lower HNM's I can see what everyone is questioning. But if you think about it, if there was a level 60 and 75 in the party, and you got a 10mil drop, how much of a difference are we talking about? Would someone level 60 complain too much about getting half a million gil when someone who helped kill the HNM more safely and faster got 20 or 30k more? I understand about them also waiting to get the claim too. If there was a way to compromise, maybe the unit system would only come into play for those 80+ HNM's, but on lower leveled ones maybe just even split would do.
#28 Dec 28 2004 at 10:09 AM Rating: Default
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All men are created equal.

Frederz keep missing the point, if you post here regardless if you ask for an opinion or not, you will get people's thoughts on the issue either be constructive or destructive, that's why this is called a forum.

I still think that the payout system is unfair and the only reason that I will not even think about joining that type of linkshell.

Also on the issue that the lower levels die always first is only in the case of beign around some horrible and inexperienced Hi-level players either in a party or an alliance, in my own experience I make it my issue to keep the lower levels than me, when in party or alliance alive at all cost, that's my part and thats what I learned from those higher than me and if someone is going to die believe me, it will not be the lower levels first, those will be the last.

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#29 Dec 28 2004 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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I think alot of you people are making to much much fuss out of these peoples loot divide system. Some of which dont have anything much over lvl 30 and still fighting over magiked skulls. I think It doesnt sound all that bad myself. Hell a lvl 60 aint gonna be able to get to close to the some of the harder hnms anyway. And if they do there gonna be more of a liabilty than an asset. I mean just think of it like this. lets say this ls nabs KB. and say 18 peple show up to take him down. After its all said and done, should the lvl 60 PLD that showed up and tossed in a few cures get just as much as the lvl 75 PLD that kited and probally died several times durign the fight. HELL NO. And IF you think He does well heres your sign. I know a lvl 60 whm could help more to but they will lvl up soon and increase their units in the loot. But to divide unit points in lvls and jobs that would be a nightmare.

Theres talk of a certain HNM ls just pooling the gill ,and the leader handing it out, some people that help dont get anything. But this ls still has alot of members. So I think you guys system sounds just fine too me.

And If you dont like it well so what , he just sent an invitation not a , hey what you think about this ,out anyway.

Hell I'll take a pearl after I return from my promyvion stress break

Edited, Tue Dec 28 10:53:21 2004 by algarofcerebus
#30 Dec 28 2004 at 11:00 AM Rating: Good
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Frederz, I think you have a target on your head bud. I don't really know you but I guess I read your posts differently than everyone else.

Algar kind of beat me to it but here's my two cents.

They offered a different system for HNM pay outs and a chance for some people to get an LS for such events. He explaines his system in the fore front so there's no surprises. If you don't like it, don't join. I'm sure plenty will like it. Honestly, I would rather take a small pay difference and see these HNMs earlier. But that's just me. Now if one player were to get double of everyone else's pay out, than that's different. That doesn't seem like a possible scenario with this set up though.

Simply put though, I agree that any post placed on this board is up for criticism. Why not make it constructive? What does bashing someone achieve? He's not forcing anyone to join, just offering a different way to do things. In the infamous words of Rodney King; "Can't we all just get along?" :-D
#31 Dec 28 2004 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
all i gotta say is.. being myself i played this game for a long long time... and im only lvl 59.. u say that higher lvls deserve more because they worked 'harder' to get higher lvl... thats a load of asscrack on a lot of occasions.. because while i and other people work hard on obtaining gil for good gear to lvl with.. others just lvl nonstop wearing pieces of **** equipment and rely on AF... im not saying this is ALL high lvls.. but i can name more than a handful who got to lvl 70+ wearing ****** *** equipment and just tried to hop on a danm HNMLS in an attempt to get rich.. to me.. those people can lick my b@llz
#32 Dec 28 2004 at 12:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Question:

Say joelowbie is a lvl 50 ranger.
Say joehighlevel is a lvl 75 rng.

Now joelowbie shows up to all hnm camps (say 9 camps so far). He gets his smaller share for each fight but he still shows up.
Now on the 10th camp joehighlevel shows up.

Doesnt joelowbie deserve more of a share in that fight then joehighlevel?
#33 Dec 28 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
This LS will turn out like almost all the "hnm" ls' on this server. They will go camp roc and simurgh a few times and take an hour to kill an then realize half their members need to level up and get bored because they are leveling and not fighting and quit, it always happens...
#34 Dec 29 2004 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
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/POKE >>>>>>> BANI
#35 Dec 29 2004 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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Algarofcerberus wrote:
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heres your sign


ROFL im sorry that's funny. My thoughts about this LS. Do whatever you gotta do, but be warned if you haven't fought a HNM before get ready to get your *** handed to you. I have never fought a HNM before, but i have heard horror stories where even lvl 75 HNM hunters get killed cause someone panicked, or someone wasn't well prepared. I dont expect to do HNMs till around lvl 65+ even then im still friggin scared, yet i know that ill just have to be well equip, and bring medicines to cover my *** just incase.
#36 Dec 29 2004 at 10:17 PM Rating: Default
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Considering joehighlevel will do more damage in that 10th camp ... then joelowbie has done in the 9 camps prior... Yes joehighlevel deserves more of a share for that particular camp

You level 60's seem to forget the simple fact that for the most part your there to gain experience.... you arnt doing jack for damage... you arnt tanking... your there to see how to do it when you get higher lvl ... and for some of you .. your there to help get the spawn for your LS


I love the idea of rewarding people for being high level ... it encourages people to get to lv75 asap ... thereby making the LS itself stronger


By the way... as he has already stated... your not being forced to join ... if you dont like the rules of the LS ... stfu and dont join
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