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I have a question to those in the know about Avatar Primes. What level could a well built pt beat these avatars? I'm currently 57MNK and know a 56BLM, 55RDM, and a few others that would like to have them. Any ideas/suggestions? I know Titan is the easiest but I'd really like to beat Shiva twice; once for the whisper, once for Shiva's Claws. :-D

Any advice/help would be appreciated.

I know that these are HARD! My LS tried about 3-4 nights ago to get Shiva... as a party of 5 (probably NOT the best idea...) and at lvs 55-56. I was RDM, we had WHM, BRD, SAM, and PLD and got PWNED in easily under a minute! It was VERY ugly. I hear there are better methods than how we went about it... like pulling the avatars down the ramps and fighting so that when they attack the mages they have to travel up the ramp to do so (or maybe it was down the ramp...) anyhoo, not much help, but I know my LS is gonna get that B!%$* when we are 60+!! (Oh... and with a full party of 6... LOL!)

Leet, Sotaka is pretty much a pro at these now. Give him a tell and he can give you all the info you could want.

Drange has most of the primes done now (leviathan and fenrir I believe are the ones he has not completed) however Scythe and I do not so we'll be making a run through them some time in the not to far flung future.

Jacky, maybe we can put something together. If this SP forms like I think it will, we'll be 60+ in no time. My SMN will stay level 6 until I get some avatars. LoL. I really want those shiva's claws ><. :-D

Maybe we can coax the great galka drk into accompanying us "Midbes" :-D

/poke Thrillagorilla

/em gives Thrilla the puppy dog eyes. :-D

Hey! I'm looking for death lately since i finally hit 60 ^^

Drop me a line :D

Leet, I've tanked a few prime fight's. Garuda like 2 times at 66.

Im by far not a pro at em but have done it a few times. I wouldnt suggets having a PLD tank it till very least 65 with great support mages.

Like I said I', no pro at these just been dragged to a few to helps some freinds, higher lvl BLM's deal the best damage on tthese dudes too.

Me and some friends (ls) have been fighting avatars for the past 2 weeks. We pretty much have them down to a science. One of the biggest things people need to do is prep work for the fights. Always know what each Prime does ability wise. It can save you tons of heartache. And make sure to bring plenty of juice and potions. Yag drinks are great for a PLD to have in these fights. I only use 1 per fight and probably 3 pots per fight (Im Elvaan). It can save you, believe me.

We fought 3 Prime avatars in a row just the other day. You dont have to use your 2hrs to win these fights. Nor do you need a BLM or SMN to be effective. We've been effectivly defeating the primes with PLD/WAR(me^^), WHM/SMN, MNK/WAR, DRK/THF, RNG/NIN, RNG/NIN. So far the toughest avatar has been Ramuh. He had an AOE that paralyzes and the range seemed pretty big. I would suggest keeping mages as far back as possible in all fights but especially him. As long as a WHM can cast paralyna on the tank you'll be fine.

This is obvious but if your tank loses hate in any of these fights its over. The Primes can kill dd's in one hit with their WS or their 2hr. Not saying that isnt possible for the tank but its much less likely. A good PLD can tank these at 63. But you'll need to bring along pots to save some extra mp. I suggest x-potions..

I wouldnt suggest fighting the avatars unless your level ranges from 63-65 (65 being the cap for Avatar-Primes minus Fenrir*uncapped*). I believe SMN's can get away with fighting Primes with their 2hr and other SMN abilities earlier at lvl 60. But its safest to go when your stronger.

Anywho, these fights are tons of fun. Everyone should experience them from time to time if you can. And always bring extra pots in case things get sticky. It can literally save you in the end.

Thanks for the insight, Wryn. :-b

Now to hit 65 ><

/poke Sotaka :-D

quote]I've done avatars with a 56 monk, 58 rdm, and a few 65+ and won easily. [/quote]

o.O. Hmmm... Maybe we can start looking into this.

/poke Milo
/poke Sotaka
/poke everyone else that might be able to help. :-b

My biggest advice for lower lvl (60 or around there) people who want to do these avatars is to find a 70+ BLM to help, then set it up like a xp party from there (pld, rdm, whm, blm, DD of choice and 70+ BLM). This really helps kill the avatars quick, and if things get too tough, or it looks like someone is going to die, the BLM can chain nuke it dead. Keep the rdm and whm on healing duty, and you should be fine. :)