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#1 Feb 27 2005 at 6:08 PM Rating: Good
How many of you really know what a Bard does? I was in a Exp. party last night and was quite suprised when I found out that the PLD had only been in a party with a bard once before.

Postioning is important when a bard is in the party. No matter where we are at, it can be done easily. Yes, even in Garliage and Kuftal!

PLD's please keep in mind that if you want Ballad 2 during the fight and Madrigal then keep your back to the mages at all times. This can be done, good PLD's who can control and keep hate have proved this theory. :)

It takes a bit of working out the kinks to get a good postioning and yes, sometimes the "mob" will move and songs buff may hit more people than it should but the beauty is, I can recast and it will be ok.



Party Setup:

A= WHM
B= PLD
C= Bard (C1, C2, C3, C4-My various positions)
D= THF
E= BLM
F= DRK
X= Enemy
----------------C1(Ballad, regular. A,E get it)-----------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------
------------E-A--------------------------------------------------
----------------C2(I cast Ballad 2 and A,B,E get it)-------------
------------------(Then Learned Etude if "E" wants it)-----------
----------------B------------------------------------------------
---------------X--C3(Madrigal)----------------------------
---------------FD------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------------------------------
---------------C4(Minuet)----------------------------------------

(F)really has the option on where they want to be, depending on if they want ballad or not.

That's the order of the main songs for me, my debuffs are in between. I just listed the main ones. In time, you develop a way to cast buffs, debuffs that work for you and your party.

After this the Pt members would have:

A= Ballad & Ballad 2. (Pre-55 Ballad I w/ Spirited Etude.)
B= Ballad 2 & Madrigal.
C= Whatever the last 2 songs that were "Aerial Party" buffs.
D= Madrigal & Minuet.
E= Ballad & Ballad 2. OR Ballad 2 & Learned Etude.
F= Usually Madrigal and Minuet. OR Ballad & Madrigal.

I hope this makes sense, maybe it is because I am a bard and in my head I can see the setup.

Edited, Sun Feb 27 18:13:17 2005 by Mlynn
#2 Feb 27 2005 at 6:13 PM Rating: Decent
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#3 Feb 27 2005 at 8:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Well quite honestly i'm not suprised by the fact the PLD had only been in one BRD pt before, i myself have only been in 5 or 6. And most of those were pre-20. Majority of the people dont understand BRD just yet i feel, while others are looking mainly for damage with realizing what a BRD can offer. It wasnt untill i unlocked BRD myself cause i was bored, and started reading on the BRD forum that i understood the BRD potential. I dont understand the whole BRD set up since my BRD is only lvl5, and only had one BRD to ever say "you need to stand here and you over there' IMO if a BRD would hold off at first to see who knows how to pt with a BRD and offer advice, rather then fussing during fight. Course if pt memebers would stop running to mobs and let the basic party formation hold in it would be easier on everyone in pt. /: I hope i made sense..since i cant make sense of myself.
#4 Feb 27 2005 at 11:25 PM Rating: Decent
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I admit I dont party with bard that much but I can see some situations were if could be hard to give each person the right song and be efficient as possible.

Some enemies have nasty Cone AoE that fire in the direction the hate is facing. So if the pld has the hate facing the mages that could cause some problems.

Also as ranger I spend alot of time behind the pld for cover and basic hate control if we have a thf on the group.
If the bard is getting ballad on the pld sometimes i miss out on Prelude madrigal or minuet because im stuck with ballad.

Yea so like i said I dont party with brd much thats just some of my experiences.

Good job though, bards and summoners are definatly the 2 most misunderstood jobs IMO
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