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#1 Mar 16 2005 at 2:37 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, I'm despirate. Why is it North American's Insist on fighting IT's and only care about exp per mob? The reason why the **** are kicking our butts on this game is because they understand that EXP / Hour is much more important and they key to leveling.....yep, that's right. No more IT's (but on occassion).

The Key (in my opinion) to lvling is fighting VT's and not stopping the chain.....ever. Think about it, lets say you get major exp off the IT's, and you chain for 3 of them.

First kill 180
Second - 225
Third - 260
Last - 280

That's a total of 945 EXP in that time. Each kill (at lvl 53 and up) probably takes 3-5 min. Figure this out....4 min. a kill x 4 = 16 min. Then you have a total pull time of 2 minutes. Now you're up to 18 min. Then rest for 5 min. to regain MP and you have a 23 min. cycle.

What if you chain VT's for a non-stop gain of 130EXP/kill? Ok, VT's take what...1 min. to kill? So, in a 23 min. IT chain (including 5 min. pull time total) you will get roughly 2k in EXP. NOW, that number isn't gaurenteed, but it'll be around there. We all know that a T will show up or a little VT giving less exp, but as you can see....over an hour, VT's will produce much MUCH more exp then IT battles.

The **** know this and understand it. That's why they won't PT with a lot of Americans. (I spoke to one with good english recently; that's where my "vision" has origionated)

I'm looking for a Static party for me and my friend (he's a 52war/nin) and would LIKE people whom are not selfish (in other words, do their job and appreciate the consistent exp coming in). My character is Effectusvita and my friend is Juganot. (I'm a 53rdm btw). If you're keen on this concept and want to get a static going, let me know. Partying at this level on Cerberus has been a nightmare lately at this lvl.

#2 Mar 16 2005 at 2:52 PM Rating: Decent
Though u had a lot to say, i agree with you very much,

basically we NA people care only about the all mighty IT mobs when in fact you can move much quicker with killing VT's and the occasional IT mobs.

I was in a party like this once with a 4 JP and it was magnificent,

I swear i gained about 18K exp in one levelin session, which with most partys in that time i would've gained about 7-9K exp killin IT mobs.

Plus you also skill up much better on VT and T mobs! <----FACT

#3 Mar 16 2005 at 3:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Main limiter to exping off of T and VT mobs is the lack of mobs in an area.

An area that can hold 4 pts fighting IT mobs can only hold 2 pt's fighting those same mobs when they con VT or T.

You kill all the mobs, chain ends.

I believe this works best in non standard areas though, where others dont exp and you have your pick from tons of mobs.
#4 Mar 16 2005 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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bah, diffrent lvls calls for diffrent messures. you been stuck in cnest to long or sumin. dont gudge "NA" by this I got to have 200+ exp per kill stuff your going through atm.

It dont matter to me what I get as long as some jerk *** isnt telling me what I'm suppose to be doing. As long as the party is chillin out, cracking jokes, and having fun I dont really care if we hit C5 everytime. I try to only exp with LS much anymore anyway
this makes things a whole lot funner too.
#5 Mar 16 2005 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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It dont matter to me what I get as long as some jerk *** isnt telling me what I'm suppose to be doing. As long as the party is chillin out, cracking jokes, and having fun I dont really care if we hit C5 everytime. I try to only exp with LS much anymore anyway this makes things a whole lot funner too.


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#6 Mar 16 2005 at 5:45 PM Rating: Decent
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/agree Algar

O.o you'd think were in the same LS or somethin'....Oh wait, we are XD

C5's on IT's is easy
#7 Mar 17 2005 at 2:54 AM Rating: Decent
It also has to do with pt set up.

A rng pt for instance (normally 3 rng nin brd healer) can easily zip through most IT's at an alarming pace. 10k/hr is very attainable with IT's getting c5-c** 300+ especially when u get to killing types of flies or crawlers.

Now lets take the flips side a generic pt (aka crap shoot) Pld whm rdm drk drg thf. They will have issues fighting those IT++'s granted they can but it will be grueling. Now this pt would be better off taking on vt's and occasional it to get a respectable 6k/hr.

Now we take a manaburn pt similar to rng pt but normally fater but with some degree of punishment if something goes wrong or a mean Aoe kills off some of those tiny taru :p

Now any and i do mean ANY "reasonable" pt set up can pull in 6k/hr IF they all work towards the exp/hr and nothing else.. blanking out all distractions... problem is very few people are at anytime not distracted when lvl well.. most NA anyway. Dunno why maybe we talk too much...
#8 Mar 17 2005 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
I agree with you, but rated down for ethnic slurs.

Seriously. It's 2005. You don't know better?

-Siouxsie
48 BRD
#9 Mar 17 2005 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
I would gladly like i static party^^ im lv.52 pld and have had very little luck with getting invites. although i havent been on much lately.

But if your serious about starting one i would very much like to be on it, although im not sure about wether im on at the same time as you are=/
#10 Mar 17 2005 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
53 rng doing AF atm Deejay
#11 Mar 20 2005 at 7:32 AM Rating: Decent
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I was in Gustav Tunnel yesterday and we chained ITs pretty much non stop. Got great exp/hour! ^^ All it really took was a rdm (which never needed to rest between refresh and convert) keeping refresh up on the pld and the smn/whm (who was our main healer). Anytime an AoE went off, the smn would cast a Curaga (the PLD almost always held hate and even if he didn't, I was doing enough dmg with my samurai that one voke got hate back). So, as was said, it's all in the pt setup. I have no problems with chaining VTs... the only big problem is, unless everyone in your pt is the sam lvl, what's VT to you, maybe IT or T to someone else.

Chaossoul
#12 Mar 20 2005 at 2:11 PM Rating: Good
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I am in agreeance with this... I believe you were partying next to us last night in CN.

I'm more prone to knocking down easier kills one after another for chain 5s than taking 15 minutes and all your resources to kill one IT+++++


It just doesn't make for a good party in my opinion.


I'm up for this if you need a 52DRK/26WAR


Mattea
#13 Mar 20 2005 at 2:41 PM Rating: Decent
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After being lvl 54 for like um... months, right now I'd taken any exp that I could get.

edited to correct my level. It's been so long that I'd forgotten it. =\

Edited, Mon Mar 21 20:17:36 2005 by Citrine
#14 Mar 20 2005 at 3:00 PM Rating: Decent
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/wave Algar and Warf
While this method of killing VTs is ok, there are much better ways of exping. I don't think I've had a party that actually needed to rest in quite some time. The only time we stopped killing was when we were waiting on stuff to pop.

~Swilly
#15 Mar 21 2005 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
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while i agree that some people are a little foolhardy where it comes to XP per mob, craving 200+ per kill, i think it's too much of a hasty generalization to say only NA players are like that. it's pretty much an individual perception, regardless of ethnicity, that we're looking at here, i feel. maybe best put across from an individual's perspective?
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