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#1 Aug 04 2005 at 7:15 PM Rating: Default
Yo all, i need a static party. 56 rdm/25nin Help me out!!! Andrewz Taru taru

Edited, Thu Aug 4 20:20:22 2005 by Andrewz
#2 Aug 04 2005 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Is that a typo on your subjob?

I hope it is otherwise you will never live up to your sig.

You should also post what days and time you are looking to SP.

Have Fun!
#3 Aug 05 2005 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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Bad sub for parties + underlvled sub = best of luck getting a static.
#4 Aug 06 2005 at 3:31 AM Rating: Good
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Think about it. Two points.

One.

Would my sig say what it does if Andrewz was a good person to consort with?

Two.

Do you want to risk your levels and XP on a person who has had Dispel resisted many times? And who does RDM/NIN (a SOLO-ONLY setup) in a party?

Things to consider. Thank you for your time.
#5 Aug 08 2005 at 6:06 PM Rating: Decent
Hahaha...Speedly is like a thread ninja. Bam on top of the folks he despises. Not an insult, it gets me weak. Thanks for that. What did Andrewz do, by the way? I'm lazy and don't feel like checking back through the threads. So, if no one feels like telling me, no worries.
#6 Aug 09 2005 at 2:28 AM Rating: Default
lol i pissed him off, i been tryin to appologize but, oh well. my dispel doesnt get resisted btw and i can use what sub i like so lay off
#7 Aug 09 2005 at 11:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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yea, i agree.

People should be able to use whatever sub they want





































So long as its lvld.
#8 Aug 09 2005 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
Ohhhhh.

<sniff> <sniff>

Burnt!

#9 Aug 10 2005 at 7:48 AM Rating: Good
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Andrewz wrote:
lol i pissed him off, i been tryin to appologize but, oh well. my dispel doesnt get resisted btw and i can use what sub i like so lay off


You've been playing this game since I came back in November 2004..and you were a 30RDM/15NIN then. I was lvl23.. I'm 64 now and you're just now hitting 56..? Your sub job has become a burden for you. Ditch it for /WHM and /BLM. That's great you wanna use what you wanna use, but look what it has done for you? NOTHING. It's held you back far too long.

Edited, Wed Aug 10 08:47:03 2005 by Zaleshea
#10 Aug 10 2005 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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and i can use what sub i like so lay off
Not in my party.
/boot

#11 Aug 10 2005 at 6:30 PM Rating: Good
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lol i pissed him off, i been tryin to appologize but, oh well. my dispel doesnt get resisted btw and i can use what sub i like so lay off

So that whole fiasco back in Garlaige Citadel, the one that started the shout fight, was everyone's imagination? Everyone's creepily similar imagination? Odd. Also, when I'm putting off other things to do to help you with your rank missions, and we all log and I say that I need you to do so-and-so to finish the mission the next day... and you don't do what I asked because you're inconsiderate and lazy, yeah, that would kind of tend to **** people off.

And when you sub a level 1 BST to RDM in Davoi and keep attempting charms on things, even after I tell you not to. Nearly killing the party more than once because of pure ignorance is NOT okay.
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and i can use what sub i like so lay off

You are 100% correct (for once). You CAN use any sub you like. So maybe I should go out and sub SMN to PLD. I mean, I like SMN, I like PLD, what could be bad about it, right? Because PLD/SMNs are so effective, on one dares to even attempt to wield that much power, right?

Zaleshea, Esdim, Sheppard, Cribsog, Shepppard - rate ups for you guys.

Speedly

Edited, Wed Aug 10 19:31:35 2005 by Speedly
#12 Aug 11 2005 at 5:03 AM Rating: Default
ok Speedly, that was one time. Games are for fun i wanted to have some fun, not really a big deal. All you had to say was dont try to charm anything. Pld/smn would be your choice btw, its YOUR game but it wouldnt make sence cuz pld are to tank and without provoke is somewhat usless. as for rdm is completly different. All we need is Dispel Refresh and the debuffs. what would be the point of having waterga or stonega? i consider having utsusemi and duel wield compared to junk. Also that AF run was for a few people, it had been a few hours and i got bored. So i left, not really a big deal. Honestly, I been tryin to apologize for all that **** that happened. All you have to do is Unblist me for like 3 mins let me apologize then blist me again, THATS ALL.
#13 Aug 11 2005 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
To be honest, if your a RDM, why would you need Utsusemi? From 50+ I think RDM shouldn't melee. So why need a shadow absorber? Just use Blink, same thing but 1 less shadow. And if your not in battle, why need it?

I know a few RDM that melee, but they know when it is appropriate to do so.

But hey, thats just my take on it, and I'd better wrap this up because this isn't my computer ^^b

By the way, Hello from NC ^^b


#14 Aug 11 2005 at 7:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Heya Princess of Green ^^
Welcome to America.

About Red Mage meleeing -- I usually against mage meleeing in PT situation unless mage is really careful. The reason is that mage should be resting or prepare for unexpected changes (new mob aggro, stuns, etc) if not casting, and there is some concern of letting the mob getting too much TP.

I have seen a few times Red Mage meleeing in PTs and still do well (and in all cases they sub Ninja). One thing such Red Mages wear melee gear -- I have one time pt with a Red Mage / Ninja 75/37 in the Ul. Range, and he wears Assualt Jerkin and hit accuracy gear all sort non-mage like stuff.
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#15 Aug 11 2005 at 1:31 PM Rating: Default
Well i Like Utsusemi, when i get hit i have utsusemi and stoneskin up, then when my shadows die i cast utsusemi again then when they die again i cast blink (Blink is gay it doesnt take the hits as much). BUT thats when i have hate for like sata or something. We all have different opinions, there is no wrong opinion. BLM sub is ok but i still perfer NIN
#16 Aug 11 2005 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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Its not so much as the shadows callista, He subs nin because i'm told he thinks that makes rdm a dd. Two swords with the en-spells might actually be powerful....if you had the STR to back it up.
#17 Aug 11 2005 at 1:55 PM Rating: Default
actually i am ok dd on INC but im saving for SH +1 and 2 Sun rings. Poor rdm/nin sucks in a way but i manage >.>
#18 Aug 11 2005 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
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You don't even know what a RDM is from the looks of things.

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actually i am ok dd on INC but im saving for SH +1 and 2 Sun rings. Poor rdm/nin sucks in a way but i manage >.>


What does STR and +Eva/Acc do for a RDM in an exp PT?

Do you even have half of the spells you should have or have you been wasting your gil on Meat Mithkabobs and Attack equips

And since when were you supposed to get hit anyway? The only time you need Utsusemi is when you're tanking. Try saving up some gil for INT rings and Mage clothes.

And as for unblisting you for your pathetic apology? Forget it.

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BLM sub is ok


ok? OK? It's best sub for RDM followed by WHM and SMN. What magical benefits do you get from NIN? Hm?

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RDM/NIN (a SOLO-ONLY setup)


Read this. Carefully.

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Not in my party.
/boot


Lol {/clap}

And this ends my angry rant. {/bow}

Edited, Thu Aug 11 22:43:11 2005 by Maiiyah
#19 Aug 11 2005 at 11:50 PM Rating: Good
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ok, apparently maiyah missed my second post entirely, so i'll post it again.

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Its not so much as the shadows callista, He subs nin because i'm told he thinks that makes rdm a dd. Two swords with the en-spells might actually be powerful....if you had the STR to back it up.



Utsusemi doesnt get used, a rdm will NOT get hate, except off spells.

It will also not get hate because it doesnt do enough dmg, and especially a taru one at that. I have nothing against Taru DD's, but a RDM/NIN gets very, very little str.
#20 Aug 12 2005 at 5:53 AM Rating: Good
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there is no wrong opinion.

This is true. But there are idiotic ones. Everywhere.
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All you had to say was dont try to charm anything.

Are... are you serious? I DID! At LEAST four times! I have at least two people that can back this up. Are you THAT thick?
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Also that AF run was for a few people, it had been a few hours and i got bored.

Funny... I don't rmemeber posting about any AF run... but way to throw yourself in the fire. Makes my point easier to illustrate.
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Pld/smn would be your choice btw, its YOUR game but it wouldnt make sence cuz pld are to tank and without provoke is somewhat usless.

Heh. Whoosh. Right over your head, eh?
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as for rdm is completly different. All we need is Dispel Refresh and the debuffs. what would be the point of having waterga or stonega?

Whoosh again. But I'll explain this one.

It's no different for RDM. I'll use my example of a PLD/SMN.

It -is- possible to tank as PLD/SMN. For that matter, it -is- possible to tank as any job. While it, for most jobs, is not a good idea, there is no one in here that can deny: with the cooperation of the others in the party, even a determined WHM -could- tank.

But it's not a good idea. Why? Well, let's use the WHM-tank example. Why shouldn't a WHM tank? Well, among other reasons, some prime reasons are:

1. A WHM should be focusing on healing the party, not keeping hate.
2. A WHM is simply not built to take hard hits for long periods of time.
3. A WHM lacks many hate-keeping tools. While the WHM could theoretically cure to keep hate, the fact of the matter is (all the PLDs know what I'm talking about here), when you've used your other hate tools and the mob turns with everyone at full HP, it's a bad spot to be in as the tank... because it's a few moments where you just can't do your job.
4. A WHM stands a good chance of not getting Cure spells off because of the incoming hits.

And so on.

My point for all that chatter? Just because you -can- do something doesn't mean it's a good idea. You ever seen a two year old sitting next to a wall socket with a penny in his hand?

Bad times.

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as for rdm is completly different. All we need is Dispel Refresh and the debuffs. what would be the point of having waterga or stonega?

I know, repeat quote. Not a typo.

This is only partially correct. Yes, RDMs need Dispel, Refresh, and debuffs. They also need the statistic backup to land them effectively.

Genius, you don't sub BLM to RDM specifically for nuking. You go RDM/BLM for the MP boost (just a little more than /WHM) and for the INT boost (so your debuffs stick). It also gives you spells in the high levels that RDM itself does not give (Stun, Warp, Escape, etc.).

Let's set up a scenario. You're fighting an IT++ mob. The mob is beating the hell out of the tank, but everyone seems to be keeping up okay. The mages capable of healing are becoming desperately low on MP, and the mob has 25% HP left. Suddenly, the mob criticals your tank and puts him deep into the red.

What do you do?

RDM/BLM - You can either throw out your biggest nuke and attempt to kill the mob (highly unlikely), or in the mid levels, you hit Escape and save everyone. The party thanks you, everyone runs back inside, and you continue XPing.

RDM/WHM - Depending on how much guts you have, you can either start chaining Cure spells and attempt to keep the tank alive, or do a nuke-cure (aka: Divine Seal > your biggest Cure spell), keep the tank alive long enough for the melee to successfully make the kill, and win. The party rests up, and continues XPing.

RDM/NIN - Maybe throw a couple weak Cures. Since your MND is not supplemented by a WHM sub and your MP base is not enhanced by a mage sub of any kind, your cures would do jack - if you weren't so drained on MP that you couldn't cast even Refresh on yourself. You cast Utsusemi, and swing feebly at the mob. Your tank goes down three seconds later, quickly followed by the WHM. The mob then turns to you. You blink three shadows, it eats through Stoneskin, and being a RDM, your Phalanx doesn't seem to work too well when this IT++ mob is bearing down on you. Everyone ends up dying. The party gets raises, and disbands because everyone is angry over the unnecessary deaths. Your XPing is over in the party, and possibly your reputation with those five others is, too.

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Honestly, I been tryin to apologize for all that sh*t that happened. All you have to do is Unblist me for like 3 mins let me apologize then blist me again, THATS ALL.

I did. It was when you sent me that invite, completely blind, way back when. You defecated from the mouth for a little bit, before being informed that you were going back on my blacklist.

A place that you should get used to.

So, let me be straightforward about this.

No.

Speedly.
#21 Aug 12 2005 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
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This is just something I saw the other day outside Bastok.

Andrewz hits the Tunnel Worm for 0 points of damage.
Andrewz hits the Tunnel Worm for 0 points of damage.
1 of Andrewz's Shadows absorbs the Tunnel Worm's attack.
Andrewz hits the Tunnel Worm for 0 points of damage.
Andrewz hits the Tunnel Worm for 0 points of damage.
1 of Andrewz's Shadows absorbs the Tunnel Worm's attack.
Andrewz hits the Tunnel Worm for 0 points of damage.
Andrewz hits the Tunnel Worm for 0 points of damage.
1 of Andrewz's Shadows absorbs the Tunnel Worm's attack.
Andrewz hits the Tunnel Worm for 0 points of damage.
Andrewz hits the Tunnel Worm for 0 points of damage.
The Tunnel Worm hits Andrewz for 800 points of damage.

So guys, I guess he has a point, he would have died on the first hit if he hadn't had Utsusemi.
#22 Aug 12 2005 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
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>.<

You're right... I did miss it. ; ;

Sorry Shep

v.v
#23 Aug 13 2005 at 2:12 AM Rating: Good
Andrewz wrote:
actually i am ok dd on INC but im saving for SH +1 and 2 Sun rings. Poor rdm/nin sucks in a way but i manage >.>


I love how you say you suck in the same thread your asking for a static pt. Good luck sorting through all the requests.
#24 Aug 15 2005 at 3:46 AM Rating: Good
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Well put. Rate up.
#25 Aug 15 2005 at 8:13 AM Rating: Decent
Is RDM really as good at DDing (melee or not) as BLM, SAM, WAR or SMN?

A Galka rdm/nin I could probably understand due to they have higher HP and higher STR than a Taru.

But still, a blm/whm/smn(possibly) would be a better solution for a Galka rdm, because Galka have low MP, plus the added int/mnd would help.


But anyway, I've played rdm to 16 and barely understand it, so what do I know? >.> <.<
#26 Aug 15 2005 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Red Mage is a late boming job with its power not reached until 30ish when you get Dispel. I love Red Mage ^^
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Art for the sake of truth, for the sake of what is
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but when there is nothing left to take away.
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