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Hello friends and fellow players, something has ocurred tonight that must be told. My LS and I were out hunting a few HNM's last night,we happened on a small group camping Sin up in Rollanberry Fields. We decided to stay and within a few hours that small group turned into a full LS by the Name of "Flying"..Needdless eventually Sin popped and our group got claim. Not more than 10 secs later all the mebers of Flying begin bringing mobs into our battle.Not to mention everymeber prceeded to stand right on Sin as an attempt to i guess lag us out or possibly make it diffcult for mages to target. Well unfortunately they were succesful. An almost full alliance died due to the actions of Flying. In all of my gaming expiriences I have never witnessed this type of game play.I dont know what else to say except I hope none of you ever have deal with what us 14-15 did. Lastly i would like to give you the names of the people who did us wrong, I hope if you encounter them that you will be aware. I am not one to complain.I just think people should know. Sorry for typos it is late. Thanks for your time....Ezeus
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Unfortunately I was unable to attend simurgh tonight but i was on the phone with Aphrini,Moreana,Gorgeous,Shiinobu, and Kaliki. This LS "Flying" was also responsible for the recent MPK attempt on the LS "Whirling Winds" about 3 days ago on serket. They kept pulling weapons and undead to try to kill Maury, exceed, igneous, and lipeza. They were unsuccessful due to my ls throwing ourselves at the mpk mobs to try and minimize the possible damage to WW's pt. This event that took place tonight with simurgh is truly a sad one that reflects only on how dishonorable and selfish this "Flying" LS is. Then after they had the nerve to say things like "Too weak LS" and they were cheering. My LS members started shouting to get the attention of GM's which ofcourse was pointless because they care more about your online etiquitte as far as cursing is concerned than Mpking and gil selling. "Flying" you are truly a pathetic linkshell that needs to learn how to get claims for yourselves. HNMlses of vanadiel please take warning. The names of the LS members were stated above in ezeus' post. May the **** come raining down on you all "Flying", You will get yours!

Last night at 5pm i started camping Mee Degi in Castle Oztroja, after an hour of killing yags in the spawn point Calala shows up and /checks me, he then leaves to the higher level areas. Couple minutes go by and he comes back with a train of about 15-20 yagudo abbots and lutenists. There really is no need for this type of thing. I've wanted a set of kotes since i was level 34 and now at 57 i still haven't been able to get drop because of people like them. Its this type of thing that hurts this game.

The best thing to do when such things happen is just simply GM call immediately. While GM call, use apporiate language and remain calm and patient with the GM. If GM gets there fast enough to witness the harrassment, may be he can do something on site.

Being abusive and rude to GM is bad... Would you go to courtroom and start swearing at the judge if the judge is not favoring you? That actually is a crime (Contempt to Court) and you can go to jail for that. (And yes swearing at a GM and GM can kick you to GM jail too)

I have seen people getting angry for "GM not doing things". If GMs are not doing things then why there were that 500 bans and why was there a change to Valkrum Emperor and Leaping Lizzys? GM has limited power to enforce their power for good reason -- to prevent power abuse and remain fair. Sometimes to do that it will require patience for the result. I am not saying all GMs are good/bad, but they can be handcuffed and there can be pretty reason for that.

PS:

About how to deal with people training linking mobs... I am not sure if this helps, this is what I will say:

First thing if you see that is coming, immediately pull the mob you are fighting away from the train, and do not act on the train. If I have not mistaken, as long as trainer has hate or aggro, the train will not aggro you.

Watch out for water around the area, certain mobs track by smell, and moving across water will cause mobs lose aggro on trainer, and link and attack you. Also do not /heal... That may cause mobs in the train to aggro in unexpected manner.

Edited, Wed Aug 10 13:56:22 2005 by scchan

GMs are pretty responsive to MPKs. If you stay calm and collected as Ama mentioned, they'll be more helpful than you think.

Make sure to put in your reason to call something like, "Player trained many aggressive monsters to me to MPK". They play the game (most of them) so they know the terminology. Just don't start with cussing or outbursts and you'll be fine. They'll investigate and take the appropriate action.

If someone has died from the actions, it is more serious to them. It's like calling the cops on a drunk driver. If you say you saw someone swerving in and out of the lane and they "almost" hit you, they'll "investigate it". If they DID hit you, you'll probably see a cruiser pretty quick. LoL

Some of the yags on the top floor will still aggro us Dahl. Those are the ones he/she mentioned being trained to that area. Goofy PLD, reading's for elvaans. :-D

LoL! Wow that's twice today that I've done the "open mouth, insert foot" routine. Geesh.. I knew the low INT on elvaan would come back to bite me in the butt one day. :-b

Sky now eh? Wow.. They've come a long way, I guess we need to start figuring out ways to combat this. :3

As I said, if someone tries to MPK, you can call GM. For an exp pt, the event usually last long enough for a GM to come to watch.

However, there is one thing, there are no rules say one cannot camp over another PT (there is no "ownership" of camps). However, there are rules against MPK. In a lot of cases, it is not best interest to camp over someone as they reduces the mobs to pull and start a conflict with other existing pt. That is why one do not fight camps. If someone decides to fight camps and use illegal method to take over, it is legitimate to GM call.

It is best to take actions in within the bounds of the rules. Rules are NOT made perfect. It is humans that make the rules, and there are always attempts to bypass rules.

Neither one has the right to change the rules for one's interest, otherwise there is no point of having rules to begin with -- as guidelines of actions and fairness.

My point is -- people take rules to their hands, and believe rules has to side with him or the rules are rubbish. And that is why I say that. I personally dislike drama but do a little research of the recent thread on Killvoid Cerberus forum, you will know what I mean. There is a recent MPK thread in Sky and a player got GM jailed for cursing at GM for GM not siding with him (hard to get GM to side with you when you say f**k or attack the GM as useless in every sentence).

I was there as Dez mentioned. It wasn't so much an MPK as Sim as an attempt and success at foiling our game play. The mobs and their crowding brought HUGE lag into the game.

As a WHM I found it very difficult to target people who were not in my party. Also you would see the tank (75 PLD) go from full health down to 50% very quickly (because of the lag) then again when it refreshed, it would go down to 90 HP!!!! We didn't have the information to react quickly enough to heal him in time. Also when I experience lag, even if the person in my party, I found it hard to fire off my cures. Normally when I cure, I hit the cure macro, which has <stpc>, I hit one of the F2 to select the player in my party and enter and off it goes. But with the lag, I also found that when I after I hit my cure macro, select the player and press enter, the cure macro didn't actually activate and I get the menu that one gets when they hit enter when a player is selected or clicked on a player. This really did not help the situation.

I tried my best to keep my group calm regarding the GM, but sometimes it's hard to control raging tempers after you've been camping for 3 hours for the damn monster to only have this **** happen to you. I don't really blame the people I was with for being very very fustrated. I was told by one of our members who was talking to the GM that some of the people will get suspended; however, I would have appreciated that if he had addressed that to the entire group so they know something was being done.

''Flying'' IS a gilseller LS :3 Bulb and Keepg are also in there ls, they Hunt cassie and that one nm lizzy at kuftel tunnle also and serket and more, sad thing is they even have sky :/ (wait till they start fighting GODS and kirin) >< its not even worth camping NMS when ''flying'' ls is there, even if you get claim theres 95% Chance your just gonna get mpk and lose claim ; ; this is why i don't even hunt NMS anymore like i use to cuz of **** like this, Gilsellers, Botters, so much more much.

"Call a GM and they will handle it."

Well as you can imagine.. 15 dead bodies laying there in Rolanberry, that was the first thing all of us did as soon as we were raised. And more importantly, not only did the GM's do nothing...

GM Wit-something started threatening to throw OUR linkshell in jail for "harrassing GM's".

Not only was i mortified with the actions that the FlyingLS had made.. but that someone who was supposed to make sure the rules of the game are followed.. would do and say something as extreme as that to someone who was completely innocent of doing anything wrong.

I literraly was so close to quitting last night because of that.


Buko
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