angrymnk wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Demea wrote:
This pretty much captures my thoughts on the subject (and it was written by another Englishman, no less).
It's hard to tell if he's being serious or sarcastic.
Take it at face value; is he wrong?
He's not wrong about the process that would be involved. My question is whether he's seriously suggesting that people should actually attempt this, or using sarcasm to show how absurd it would be and basically saying "shut up about gun control because unless you're willing to actually do *this*, you're not going to accomplish anything".
Given that I've made that exact argument on this forum in numerous threads on gun control (absent sarcasm), it seemed relevant to ask the question. It was unclear to me whether he was actually berating those people he listed for not pursuing the course of repealing the 2nd amendment, or warning them that to effectively change gun laws in the US to be more like other nations, they'd have to take steps that they almost certainly can't succeed at, and probably don't want to even attempt. When I make that argument, I'm trying to get people to see that piecemeal restrictions that nibble around the edges of the 2nd amendment don't work, so unless they're actually willing to repeal said amendment, their efforts would be better placed in directions that don't target the ownership of guns as a whole, but rather attempt to better manage the reality of a nation where people have a constitutional right to that ownership.
Was he waving people off the issue, or encouraging them to make the attempt? I couldn't tell.