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#352 Mar 02 2016 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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I find it interesting that the couple Republicans here who've expressed an opinion seem to dislike not only Trump but Cruz and Rubio as well. Who would you guys have liked to see win (out of the declared candidates, not dream guys who never ran)?

Rand Paul, as much of a pipe dream as that is.

If not him, I actually think Jeb! was a solid candidate, but was sunk both by the weight of his surname and his refusal to participate in some of the complete insanity at the debates (which is also why Kasich is doing so poorly). Vowing to turn the entire Middle East into a sheet of glass might be appalling, but saying nothing is a slow, quiet death.
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#353 Mar 02 2016 at 11:32 AM Rating: Good
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We're used to having to choose between the lesser of two evils and all
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe you just need to get it over with and choose the greater evil for once.
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#354 Mar 02 2016 at 11:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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someproteinguy wrote:
We're used to having to choose between the lesser of two evils and all
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe you just need to get it over with and choose the greater evil for once.

Vote Cthulhu!
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#355 Mar 02 2016 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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If he'd answer my summons maybe I would vote for the great dreamer. Smiley: bah
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#356 Mar 02 2016 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
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America is basically doing this and I need to do a barrel roll to get to the Allakhazam forums?? I hate the world.
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#357 Mar 02 2016 at 11:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
We're used to having to choose between the lesser of two evils and all
Maybe that's the problem. Maybe you just need to get it over with and choose the greater evil for once.
Well I did vote Libertarian last election.
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#358 Mar 02 2016 at 3:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ben Carson says that he can see no path forward to the presidency after last night's losses.

...which seems to imply that he saw one on Monday?
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#359 Mar 02 2016 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
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That's not necessarily indicative; the south and cities are Clinton's best regions whereas Northeast and liberal suburban arr Sanders's.
But why is that? Because the South is more diverse. The only groups that he won was white men and young voters (who don't turn out). He needs to win more demographics to be competitive.
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#360 Mar 02 2016 at 4:10 PM Rating: Good
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He is predicted to win or break even on NE & western votes.

There were a lot of southern states voting Tuesday.

However, he'll have to win them by more than polling suggests if he wants to overcome the dual albatrosses of super delegate math and the fact that black people hate him.
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#361 Mar 02 2016 at 4:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Ben Carson says that he can see no path forward to the presidency after last night's losses.

...which seems to imply that he saw one on Monday?


He said he sees no political path forward. He still hasn't ruled out a coup.
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Timelordwho wrote:
That's not necessarily indicative; the south and cities are Clinton's best regions whereas Northeast and liberal suburban arr Sanders's.
But why is that? Because the South is more diverse. The only groups that he won was white men and young voters (who don't turn out). He needs to win more demographics to be competitive.

Which is ironic, considering that Clinton is only beating him in states that vote staunchly Republican in general elections. If the Democrats want to win in the general election, all signs point to Hillary being a sinking ship.
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#363 Mar 02 2016 at 4:43 PM Rating: Default
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However, he'll have to win them by more than polling suggests
This is true not just because of super delegates, but because there aren't any "winner takes all states". That only proves the point that he only appeals to a small demographic. Those states that he is seen as winning aren't as diverse as the South. He'll lose in precincts that are mostly ethnic minority.

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the fact that black people hate him.
This isn't true. He just hasn't done anything to earn the vote in comparison.
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#364 Mar 02 2016 at 4:45 PM Rating: Excellent
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TLW wrote:
However, he'll have to win them by more than polling suggests
This is true not just because of super delegates, but because there aren't any "winner takes all states". That only proves the point that he only appeals to a small demographic. Those states that he is seen as winning aren't as diverse as the South. He'll lose in precincts that are mostly ethnic minority.

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the fact that black people hate him.
This isn't true. He just hasn't done anything to earn the vote in comparison.

Except have a record dating back to the 1960s that consistently shows he is on the right side of the civil rights movement.
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#365 Mar 02 2016 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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If only Bernie would start calling people 'super predators'... Maybe he'd have a shot.
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#366 Mar 02 2016 at 4:57 PM Rating: Default
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Except have a record dating back to the 1960s that consistently shows he is on the right side of the civil rights movement.




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If only Bernie would start calling people 'super predators'... Maybe he'd have a shot.
I have no issues with calling drug cartels "super predators".
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#367 Mar 02 2016 at 5:09 PM Rating: Good
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What's Clinton done for you lately?
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#368 Mar 02 2016 at 5:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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#369 Mar 02 2016 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Iowa, Massachusetts and Virginia are "staunchly Republican"?

Okay, yes, Iowa and Virginia are swing states but Massachusetts is not. So, I'll stand by my argument all the same.
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#370 Mar 02 2016 at 5:23 PM Rating: Default
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What's Clinton done for you lately?
Pretend to care.
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#371 Mar 02 2016 at 5:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Winning a swing state matters more than winning Vermont or Minnesota (or Massachusetts) which are going to vote Democratic if you put an opossum on the ballot.

"Matters more" being relative. I don't think that primary returns are especially predictive of general election success in specific states. I don't think that Cruz would win Iowa in a November election, for instance.
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#372 Mar 02 2016 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
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Pretend to care.


Being married to Bill Clinton would teach anyone to fake it, I expect.
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#373 Mar 02 2016 at 5:43 PM Rating: Default
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Winning a swing state matters more than winning Vermont or Minnesota (or Massachusetts) which are going to vote Democratic if you put an opossum on the ballot.

"Matters more" being relative. I don't think that primary returns are especially predictive of general election success in specific states. I don't think that Cruz would win Iowa in a November election, for instance.
This. I was explaining this to someone on Facebook today.
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#374 Mar 02 2016 at 6:43 PM Rating: Good
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Iowa, Massachusetts and Virginia are "staunchly Republican"?


MA was pretty even split on delegates. Also, our moneyed conservatives are democrats.
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#375 Mar 02 2016 at 6:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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Regardless, the claim was that Clinton only won started which are "staunchly Republican" which is just inaccurate. It'll be less accurate after Clinton wins Democratic EV bedrock states like California, New York and Illinois but it wasn't accurate to begin with.

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#376 Mar 02 2016 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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And rumors abound that Slick Willy was caught cock-blocking several polling stations which would have put a damper on some Sanders votes.
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