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#1 Mar 09 2009 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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As we approach Paddy's Day (bejayzus), I hope we can distinguish between the romanticised, forty-shades-of-green nostalgia from expatriate Irish-folk, and the blind, hateful stupidity of those hiding behind the Orange, White and Green.

These bastards didn't just kill two British squaddies in cold blood, (they dropped them with a few rounds, then unloaded into them on the ground), they even shot the Domino's Pizza Guys who were delivering to the barracks. The soldiers killed were about to deploy to The 'Stan.

I am pro-Republican. I believe we should find a way (it will take a long time) to enable self-government across the whole of Ireland without waking the beast of the British descendants living in Ulster.

Meanwhile, the 'better' me hopes we find the gumen and bring them to justice. The 'worse' me wants a few deep-cover boys from the Hereford Gun Club to find 'em.
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#2 Mar 09 2009 at 1:07 PM Rating: Excellent
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I hope we can distinguish between the romanticised, forty-shades-of-green nostalgia from expatriate Irish-folk


Someone has never been to Southie.
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Seriously, what the f*ck nature?
#3 Mar 09 2009 at 1:13 PM Rating: Good
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Baron von Annabella wrote:
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I hope we can distinguish between the romanticised, forty-shades-of-green nostalgia from expatriate Irish-folk


Someone has never been to Southie.
I worked in Chelsea (not the London one) briefly, and I have 'been' to Southie, but I have no shortage of memories of Irish-Americans who happily shovelled money into the IRA's pcokets to keep the Leprechauns smiling, and never considered what the bullets they funded would do.
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#4 Mar 09 2009 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
Is Ireland really worth fighting for?
#5 Mar 09 2009 at 1:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kavekk wrote:
Is Ireland really worth fighting for?
In before GwynApnud
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#6 Mar 09 2009 at 1:26 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
Meanwhile, the 'better' me hopes we find the gumen and bring them to justice. The 'worse' me wants a few deep-cover boys from the Hereford Gun Club to find 'em.


I feel the same. Real IRA, a bunch of murdering Bank Robbers now ...

This also highlights why Northern Ireland exists in the first place. They hurt their own cause, not further it. You would have thought they would have seen that with the progress made since the the 1980's. Talking works, I hope the rest of the mechanism does not falter due to a few basketcases.

#7 Mar 09 2009 at 1:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nobby wrote:
Baron von Annabella wrote:
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I hope we can distinguish between the romanticised, forty-shades-of-green nostalgia from expatriate Irish-folk


Someone has never been to Southie.
I worked in Chelsea (not the London one) briefly, and I have 'been' to Southie, but I have no shortage of memories of Irish-Americans who happily shovelled money into the IRA's pcokets to keep the Leprechauns smiling, and never considered what the bullets they funded would do.


Oh true, yeah, I just can't consider them to be so much nostalgic and romanticized than bitter and pissed off--ready to fund their ancestral anger as much as their own. That's pretty much a stereotype, but whatever.

I agree with your general point.
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#8 Mar 09 2009 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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Baron von Annabella wrote:
I agree with your general point.
My reputation is now in tatters. Smiley: mad
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#9 Mar 09 2009 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
You need to sleep with some young lass, smoke three boxes of cigarettes and play a few Eric Clapton tunes on your guitar. This is your penance.
#10 Mar 09 2009 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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Kavekk wrote:
You need to sleep with some young lass, smoke three boxes of cigarettes and play a few Eric Clapton tunes on your guitar. This is your penance.


2 out of 3 ain't bad Smiley: nod
#11 Mar 09 2009 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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GwynapNud the Eccentric wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
You need to sleep with some young lass, smoke three boxes of cigarettes and play a few Eric Clapton tunes on your guitar. This is your penance.


2 out of 3 ain't bad Smiley: nod
Yeah, but sometimes I just prefer to play Ben Harper songs
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#12 Mar 09 2009 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Nobby wrote:
As we approach Paddy's Day (bejayzus), I hope we can distinguish between the romanticised, forty-shades-of-green nostalgia from expatriate Irish-folk, and the blind, hateful stupidity of those hiding behind the Orange, White and Green.

These bastards didn't just kill two British squaddies in cold blood, (they dropped them with a few rounds, then unloaded into them on the ground), they even shot the Domino's Pizza Guys who were delivering to the barracks. The soldiers killed were about to deploy to The 'Stan.

I am pro-Republican. I believe we should find a way (it will take a long time) to enable self-government across the whole of Ireland without waking the beast of the British descendants living in Ulster.

Meanwhile, the 'better' me hopes we find the gumen and bring them to justice. The 'worse' me wants a few deep-cover boys from the Hereford Gun Club to find 'em.

So what's the color of the boathouse at Hereford?
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#13 Mar 10 2009 at 1:40 PM Rating: Good
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I am pro-Republican. I believe we should find a way (it will take a long time) to enable self-government across the whole of Ireland without waking the beast of the British descendants living in Ulster.


Fuck the British descendants living in Ulster. What's the fear, exactly, that the Taoiseach is going to round them all up and put them in camps?

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