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#52 May 07 2009 at 8:41 AM Rating: Decent
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You liberal shill! You can't laugh at Savage, you need to acknowledge everything he says because it's not what you believe!
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#53 May 07 2009 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
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hangtennow wrote:
Elinda,

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VAfJyzN3ak

This is why you can't believe a thing you hear from the media.
Any media?


That's right any media be they fox news or cnn or whoever.

Once you begin to recognize that every single station and reporter has an agenda the better off you will be.

It just so happens that most of the media are liberal democrats. Who knows maybe that will change in the future.



....wait carefully for that moment that the veil of paranoia is lifted or at least thins a bit, you'll get a sneak-peak of reality. Pay close attention when it does. I'd suggest even writing stuff down for later.
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#54 May 07 2009 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Elinda wrote:
....wait carefully for that moment that the veil of paranoia is lifted or at least thins a bit, you'll get a sneak-peak of reality. Pay close attention when it does. I'd suggest even writing stuff down for later.

Insulting certainly helps depolarize his views. People tend to be much more open minded when they're called idiots.

Edited, May 7th 2009 11:53am by Allegory
#55 May 07 2009 at 9:09 AM Rating: Good
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What's the big friggin deal anyway, why do Dems reject vehemently that the media doesn't love hell out of Obama and hated Bush, everyone at the end of his presidency hated Bush. That's not NEWS. Why do Repubs make a big deal about it.

This is what I was thinking.

If you polled all the major Washington news correspondents, the vast majority would be liberal. Did anyone expect otherwise? The video shows us nothing new.

The question is whether their political leanings affect the reporting. Actually, I'm sure it affects their reporting. Their job is about facts, so they are biased toward facts.


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Also, here's an explanation from someone who was actually in the room.
http://www.slate.com/id/2217664/



Edited, May 7th 2009 12:31pm by trickybeck
#56 May 07 2009 at 9:26 AM Rating: Default
Allegory,

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Insulting certainly helps depolarize his views. People tend to be much more open minded when they're called idiots.


You don't say.

#57 May 07 2009 at 9:28 AM Rating: Default
Ticksy,

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The question is whether their political leanings affect the reporting.


There's any question?

#58 May 09 2009 at 6:02 AM Rating: Decent
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"Biased towards facts" that would be hilarious if it wasnt so scary.

#59 May 09 2009 at 6:06 AM Rating: Decent
Why? Facts are useless. You can use facts to support anything that's even remotely true.
#60 May 09 2009 at 8:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Trickybeck wrote:
If you polled all the major Washington news correspondents, the vast majority would be liberal. Did anyone expect otherwise? The video shows us nothing new.


It is interesting, isn't it, that arguably the best informed civilians in the nation are widely regarded as being left of center. Wonder why that would be.

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#61 May 09 2009 at 12:56 PM Rating: Decent
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"Facts are useles" wow another gem.

"Remotely true" is a close runner-up.

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It is interesting, isn't it, that arguably the best informed civilians in the nation are widely regarded as being left of center. Wonder why that would be.


Honestly could be a "Chicken or egg situation"
#62 May 09 2009 at 8:46 PM Rating: Decent
Or it could be that you have your head in the sand.
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#63 May 09 2009 at 8:47 PM Rating: Good
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Trickybeck wrote:
If you polled all the major Washington news correspondents, the vast majority would be liberal. Did anyone expect otherwise? The video shows us nothing new.


It is interesting, isn't it, that arguably the best informed civilians in the nation are widely regarded as being left of center. Wonder why that would be.
It's a conspiracy silly.Smiley: rolleyes
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#64 May 11 2009 at 12:11 AM Rating: Default
"The Founding Fathers deliberately eschewed that sort of ceremony (hence why the president is referred to as "Mr. President" and not "Your Excellency" or anything like that.)"

George Washington did not believe in nor did he ever want the US to have Political parties, he believed a nation divided was weak and would be destroyed by it's own people.

Thomas Jefferson insisted that the Right to Bear arms be added to the constitution, that should the government become too Tyrranical; the people would by right take up and bear arms to form militia with purpose to overthrow that government. This right is opposed by government in recent years, citing the existence of the US military as being reason to no longer need it, however that military is controlled by and pledged to obey the orders of the President. And Fairly soon we as Americans may become dutybound by that constitutional right for the sake of protecting our society, should the president and congress continue to shred the very founding documents they are sworn to preserve and protect.

Thomas Jefferson also supported States rights, the National Bank and believed in a liberal interpretation of the Constitution. Just interesting bits of trivia since someone mentioned the Founding fathers.

Liberal media, teachers, and the democratic party have made Mr. Obama into a figure similar to Hercules, he's like us he has a blackberry, he's personable and he does things that have shock value. He can walk into a private business and execute a hostile takeover firing the CEO and installing a puppet in his place. He's cool, he's got young kids, he has charisma. He can do no wrong anyone who opposes him is automatically a racist, a traitor, and a terrorist in that order.

#65 May 11 2009 at 4:11 AM Rating: Excellent
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He can do no wrong anyone who opposes him is automatically a racist, a traitor, and a terrorist in that order.


lolwut?*

As for Jefferson, wasn't he that guy who raped his slaves?**

Edit:*To better explain this, let me ask the question: what the hell have you been smoking? As a moderate who worked for the Obama campaign, there are PLENTY of things I don't agree with the president on. I think gay marriage should be recognized at a federal level; he does not. I think we should be out of Iraq sooner than by next year. I disagree with workplace raids for illegal immigrants, but they still continue under the Obama administration despite running with campaign promises of "no more broken families." If you agree 100% with someone, even someone you support, you're an moran. The only people even more idiotic are those who actually think what you just wrote; that opposing makes you terribad. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of Obama and the Dems (Have you heard of my new band, Obama and the Dems?) that involve none of the above. However, many conservatives talking heads resort to implied racism, calling the left traitors, and saying they support terrorists. Maybe if they used some actual points of contention rather than ideological nonsense, they'd do better.

**Founding Fathers. Who really cares? People give them the same kind of halo as Jesus F*cking Christ. Take advice from people in the past, then make your own decisions. They had a good perspective... hopefully... when they were alive, but the world has changed.


Edited, May 11th 2009 8:19am by LockeColeMA
#66 May 11 2009 at 4:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thomas Jefferson also supported States rights, the National Bank and believed in a liberal interpretation of the Constitution.
No.
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#67 May 11 2009 at 4:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Allegory wrote:
Elinda wrote:
....wait carefully for that moment that the veil of paranoia is lifted or at least thins a bit, you'll get a sneak-peak of reality. Pay close attention when it does. I'd suggest even writing stuff down for later.

Insulting certainly helps depolarize his views. People tend to be much more open minded when they're called idiots.

Haha. My 'insults' to Varus are of the motherly type. You know stuff like; eat a good breakfast, wear your seatbelt, TAKE YOUR MEDS.

Funny, you should single me out for it.
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#68REDACTED, Posted: May 11 2009 at 5:37 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is obviously why Democrats get a majority of the uneducated voting blocks.
#69 May 11 2009 at 5:53 AM Rating: Good
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"The Founding Fathers deliberately eschewed that sort of ceremony (hence why the president is referred to as "Mr. President" and not "Your Excellency" or anything like that.)"

George Washington did not believe in nor did he ever want the US to have Political parties, he believed a nation divided was weak and would be destroyed by it's own people.

Thomas Jefferson insisted that the Right to Bear arms be added to the constitution, that should the government become too Tyrranical; the people would by right take up and bear arms to form militia with purpose to overthrow that government. This right is opposed by government in recent years, citing the existence of the US military as being reason to no longer need it, however that military is controlled by and pledged to obey the orders of the President. And Fairly soon we as Americans may become dutybound by that constitutional right for the sake of protecting our society, should the president and congress continue to shred the very founding documents they are sworn to preserve and protect.

Thomas Jefferson also supported States rights, the National Bank and believed in a liberal interpretation of the Constitution. Just interesting bits of trivia since someone mentioned the Founding fathers.

Liberal media, teachers, and the democratic party have made Mr. Obama into a figure similar to Hercules, he's like us he has a blackberry, he's personable and he does things that have shock value. He can walk into a private business and execute a hostile takeover firing the CEO and installing a puppet in his place. He's cool, he's got young kids, he has charisma. He can do no wrong anyone who opposes him is automatically a racist, a traitor, and a terrorist in that order.


Please tell me you belong to a militia.

We need at least one conservative on these boards who won't just talk crazy, but who's willing to do something crazy about all us damn liberals.

Do you have your own ulta right wing Fred Phelpsesque character feeding you this crazy stuff?

Do you whack off to Sarah Palin?

Tell me M O R E!!!
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#70 May 11 2009 at 5:58 AM Rating: Good
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hangtennow wrote:
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It is interesting, isn't it, that arguably the best informed civilians in the nation are widely regarded as being left of center. Wonder why that would be.


This is obviously why Democrats get a majority of the uneducated voting blocks.

You know just saying something doesn't make it true don't you?


They also have a majority of the educated voting blocs. In fact, the Democrats have a majority of ALL voting blocs when it comes to education level.
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VOTE BY EDUCATION
TOTAL Democrat Republican
No High School (3%) 64% 35%
H.S. Graduate (21%) 55% 44%
Some College (31%) 51% 47%
College Graduate (27%) 49% 49%
Postgraduate (18%) 58% 41%

Source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2006/pages/results/states/US/H/00/epolls.0.html
As you can also see, "uneducated" (ie, no high school education) accounts for only 3% of the votes cast in 2006. Yes, this is from 2006. It is on Varus to show anything more up to date.

And before you try and strawman it, don't make a mistake like IQ = education level.


#71 May 11 2009 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
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And before you try and strawman it, don't make a mistake like IQ = education level.


Why not? It's well known the vast amount of the right are functionally retarded.

It's just happens that some of those retards inherited a **** ton of money & as a population ca spend enough money to disproportionally effect election results and/or scare more retards into voting for their agenda.
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#72 May 11 2009 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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hangtennow wrote:
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It is interesting, isn't it, that arguably the best informed civilians in the nation are widely regarded as being left of center. Wonder why that would be.


This is obviously why Democrats get a majority of the uneducated voting blocks.

You know just saying something doesn't make it true don't you?


I should. You demonstrate the point several times a day.

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#73 May 11 2009 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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And before you try and strawman it, don't make a mistake like IQ = education level.


Why not?


IQ is NOT education level. They're completely different. I know plenty of "high IQ" people who are effectively dumbasses because they never try. They end up going nowhere. There's a correlation between IQ and education level, but they're different. And we're not talking about "smart" voters, we're talking about "educated" voters.

Cue the "our schools make kids more liberal!" argument. Then check out schools in the south. My girlfriend was telling me just yesterday how back in HS her health coach asked how many people believed in God, and when she didn't raise her hand, took her aside and lectured her for 10 minutes. Go go FL public schools.
#74 May 11 2009 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
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Edit: point already made quite well by others.

Edited, May 11th 2009 12:18pm by Deathwysh
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#76 May 11 2009 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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VOTE BY INCOME TOTAL Democrat Republican
Under $15,000 (7%) 67% 30%
$15-30,000 (12%) 61% 36%
$30-50,000 (21%) 56% 43%

 
                   D    R   NR 
$50-75,000 (21%)  48%  49%  3% 
$75-100,000 (15%) 51%  48%  1% 
$100-150,000 (14%)48%  51%  1% 
$150-200,000 (6%) 48%  50%  2% 
$200,000+ (6%)    52%  46%  2%


So it's roughly divided among the middle class, a slight Republican majority between 100k-200k and a clear Democratic lead once you get over $200,000.
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So basically poor people vote Democrat
And half of the middle class and a majority of the wealthy. Good point.

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