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#77 May 05 2009 at 11:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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You could make the argument that they would need to start enforcing the rules from the top down, starting in the gaming forums, then. I honestly don't think that much of what goes on in the OoT is any worse than what you see on a daily basis in the gaming forums. I hardly think that the site's Out of Topic forum should be stricter than the MMO Gaming forums.


And I basically agree with you, but we're not the one making the complaints that are driving the admins up the walls. If rules were enforced as written, those complaining would either not have anything to complain about or could be told that if they couldn't deal with the rules, that's their problem.

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#78 May 05 2009 at 11:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think both the Oot and the Asylum shouldn't be moderated at all (or very lightly), but that the rest of the forums are.


Then why not just merge the two and create another?


Because it's been done before? Because that's how we got here?

What's wrong with moving threads to the appropriate forum?

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#79 May 05 2009 at 11:07 AM Rating: Good
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Katielynn wrote:
Duke Ikkian wrote:
I think both the Oot and the Asylum shouldn't be moderated at all (or very lightly), but that the rest of the forums are.


Then why not just merge the two and create another?


What's the point? It would be the same thing. The current OOT'ers don't want to move to the Asylum because they consider the OOT their home. How would they merge the two to make those folks suddenly want to post here and not in the Sandbox?

It seems to me the most logical solution would be enforcing the rules of the OOT by moving any and all posts that don't comply to here. Eventually, they'll get it.
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#80 May 05 2009 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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OK, Sammy beat me to it with fewer words.
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#81 May 05 2009 at 11:09 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gotta be fast, boy. Smart.

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#82 May 05 2009 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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Kakar wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
Duke Ikkian wrote:
I think both the Oot and the Asylum shouldn't be moderated at all (or very lightly), but that the rest of the forums are.


Then why not just merge the two and create another?


What's the point? It would be the same thing. The current OOT'ers don't want to move to the Asylum because they consider the OOT their home. How would they merge the two to make those folks suddenly want to post here and not in the Sandbox?

It seems to me the most logical solution would be enforcing the rules of the OOT by moving any and all posts that don't comply to here. Eventually, they'll get it.


So? The original Asylumites were THE orginal OOTers. Your argument isn't valid.
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#83 May 05 2009 at 11:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Katielynn wrote:
Kakar wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
Duke Ikkian wrote:
I think both the Oot and the Asylum shouldn't be moderated at all (or very lightly), but that the rest of the forums are.


Then why not just merge the two and create another?


What's the point? It would be the same thing. The current OOT'ers don't want to move to the Asylum because they consider the OOT their home. How would they merge the two to make those folks suddenly want to post here and not in the Sandbox?

It seems to me the most logical solution would be enforcing the rules of the OOT by moving any and all posts that don't comply to here. Eventually, they'll get it.


So? The original Asylumites were THE orginal OOTers. Your argument isn't valid.
Merging/creating forums does fUck-all if the moderating stays inconsistent.

ETA: What is your argument for merging the forums and creating a new one, anyway? That it was done before? How well did it work out if we're basically in the same situation again? "Well, it didn't really work in the long run last time, so let's do it again!" Brill'.

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#84 May 05 2009 at 11:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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I like how the natural progression of human grouping is actively discouraged by the administration. Eventually they will learn that this will always be the way things progress.
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#85 May 05 2009 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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boywithoutaspoon wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
Kakar wrote:
Katielynn wrote:
Duke Ikkian wrote:
I think both the Oot and the Asylum shouldn't be moderated at all (or very lightly), but that the rest of the forums are.


Then why not just merge the two and create another?


What's the point? It would be the same thing. The current OOT'ers don't want to move to the Asylum because they consider the OOT their home. How would they merge the two to make those folks suddenly want to post here and not in the Sandbox?

It seems to me the most logical solution would be enforcing the rules of the OOT by moving any and all posts that don't comply to here. Eventually, they'll get it.


So? The original Asylumites were THE orginal OOTers. Your argument isn't valid.
Merging/creating forums does fUck-all if the moderating stays inconsistent.

ETA: What is your argument for merging the forums and creating a new one, anyway? That it was done before? How well did it work out if we're basically in the same situation again? "Well, it didn't really work in the long run last time, so let's do it again!" Brill'.

Edited, May 5th 2009 3:22pm by boywithoutaspoon


Actually, it worked for several years. But with everything, as time goes, it changes. The regular OOT'ers became more mature, which led to more racy and outrageous posting. Which finally led to the blowout we are seeing now. Change happens, get used to it.
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#86 May 05 2009 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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Change happens, get used to it.
Smiley: lolSmiley: lolSmiley: lol

Merging the forums and creating a new one isn't really change, though. It's just restarting the cycle. For there to be a change, the admins have to actually follow through and moderate.

Edited, May 5th 2009 3:34pm by boywithoutaspoon
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#87 May 05 2009 at 11:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Katielynn wrote:
The regular OOT'ers became more mature, which led to more racy and outrageous posting.

Are you sure you don't mean less mature? I think you mean less mature.
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#88 May 05 2009 at 11:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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I really don't give a **** what the fuck you say about senjow in here. Are there things you can say or do in Asylum that can get you banned? sure. But you really have to work to find them. Varrus can probably give you some pointers.
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#89 May 05 2009 at 11:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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In Soviet Russia, kids beat Senjiow.
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Hi Kaolian! How are you?
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#91 May 05 2009 at 11:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Ok I guess. Nothing has exploded, and no one took my spleen while I slept and left me in a tub of ice, so there is that...
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#92 May 05 2009 at 11:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I really don't give a sh*t what the fuck you say about senjow in here. Are there things you can say or do in Asylum that can get you banned? sure. But you really have to work to find them. Varrus can probably give you some pointers.


Sweet.

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#93 May 05 2009 at 12:00 PM Rating: Good
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Ok I guess. Nothing has exploded, and no one took my spleen while I slept and left me in a tub of ice, so there is that...

That IS important.
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#94 May 05 2009 at 12:12 PM Rating: Good
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Senjiow in Chinese is bang thai.
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#95 May 05 2009 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
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No, I had it right the first time. The OOT posters as a whole has matured and now needs something more than the OOT was originally created to provide.
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#96 May 05 2009 at 1:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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And the right answer is to move threads to the right forum. There is no need to proliferate fora all over the place, as I said before, on a continuum of niceness.

Two levels should be fine: fluffy and fiery.

When people post the wrong thing in one, move it to the other. It's not a hard concept, really.

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Samira wrote:
And the right answer is to move threads to the right forum. There is no need to proliferate fora all over the place, as I said before, on a continuum of niceness.

Two levels should be fine: fluffy and fiery.

When people post the wrong thing in one, move it to the other. It's not a hard concept, really.



Except it would take a full time admin. Allakhazam isn't exactly fully staffed at the moment.
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#98 May 05 2009 at 1:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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So would hypermoderating the Happy Fluffy Kitten forum. Either way someone is going to have to moderate.

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So would hypermoderating the Happy Fluffy Kitten forum. Either way someone is going to have to moderate.



Katie doesn't understand that merging without moderating is running around in circles.
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#100 May 05 2009 at 1:51 PM Rating: Decent
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As near as I can recall, the last time the oot had a specific moderator, it ended up with a lot of ***** being waved... everywhere, and I'm not talking about flame wars.
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So would hypermoderating the Happy Fluffy Kitten forum. Either way someone is going to have to moderate.



Katie doesn't understand that merging without moderating is running around in circles.
Don't you see, though? Change happens, get over it. Smiley: rolleyes

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