Look like the Real Estate market has stabilized and is starting to grow again and Liberals are all excited over this.
They so desprately want to proclaim that Obamanomics is working that none of them have figured out that the reason the Real Estate market is trending up is because of all of the mean evil rich people who are buying property cheap so they can sell for a big profit in a few years.
I know crazy huh, who would have thought that capitalism and people who want to take a chance and work hard would help the economy that liberals have weakened and almost collapsed in the last several decades ??????!!!!???
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Stock markets are up as well.
Much as you'd like to blame people who don't fall into lockstep with your peculiar leanings, it was just a recession.
Much as you'd like to blame people who don't fall into lockstep with your peculiar leanings, it was just a recession.
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
#3ThiefX,
Posted: Aug 01 2009 at 2:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Stock Markets are up because of the real estate market.
Liberals!!
I buy 1 frigging house and it ends the recesion? nice.
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Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I buy 1 frigging house and it ends the recesion? nice.
How's it feel to be so powerful?
Samira wrote:
it was just a recession.
This. Really, you'd be better served by saying "It was (is) all cyclical and going to (will) end anyway no matter what" than to try to push your line.
Edited, Aug 1st 2009 6:15pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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This. Really, you'd be better served by saying "It was (is) all cyclical and going to (will) end anyway no matter what" than to try to push your line.
Yep, it's a natural product of our economic system.
Just as Planned.
Yup, everytime there is a "Slump" it creates "Opportunity"....
Now if only the media would cover it that way, it's really noticeable here in Cali.
Our unfortunate next door neighbor bought at the top & is now trying to sell for a 300k loss. Poor *******.
A friend of mine is acquiring property like Ghenghis Khan.
Now if only the media would cover it that way, it's really noticeable here in Cali.
Our unfortunate next door neighbor bought at the top & is now trying to sell for a 300k loss. Poor *******.
A friend of mine is acquiring property like Ghenghis Khan.
ThiefX wrote:
Look like the Real Estate market has stabilized and is starting to grow again and Liberals are all excited over this.
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I know crazy huh, who would have thought that capitalism and people who want to take a chance and work hard would help the economy that liberals have weakened and almost collapsed in the last several decades ??????!!!!???
Obviously, another Rush & Friends fan trying to spread the gud wurd.
I got a chuckle reading this opinion piece about Glen Beck, in a local paper. The author is a former neighbor of ours.
Edited, Aug 2nd 2009 4:21pm by Elinda
Alma wrote:
I lost my post
#11REDACTED,
Posted: Aug 02 2009 at 2:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The markets have been on an upswing the last few weeks for one reason. Obamacare is on the rocks. Now that we have an August recess and the politicians aren't in Dc August should be pretty good. None of this addresses the underlying causes as to why the housing market failed to begin with. Make no mistake if Obamacare passes the market will shoot back down.
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Make no mistake if Obamacare passes the market will shoot back down.
Amy reliable and non biased sources to back up that opinion?
DarthGekko wrote:
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Make no mistake if Obamacare passes the market will shoot back down.
Amy reliable and non biased sources to back up that opinion?
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caesaraugustus wrote:
The markets have been on an upswing the last few weeks for one reason. Obamacare is on the rocks. Now that we have an August recess and the politicians aren't in Dc August should be pretty good. None of this addresses the underlying causes as to why the housing market failed to begin with. Make no mistake if Obamacare passes the market will shoot back down.
p.s. Unemployment is still down and there's still no growth in the economy. Fortunately Obama media is able to focus on all the positives. Can anyone remind me how many quarters of positive economic growth we've had this year?
p.s. Unemployment is still down and there's still no growth in the economy. Fortunately Obama media is able to focus on all the positives. Can anyone remind me how many quarters of positive economic growth we've had this year?
You know, I'd hate to get all gbaji on us as start making sweeping generalizations about political parties but eh, **** it, because there isn't any other way to say this. Why does it seem that everyone, republican or otherwise, who has bad things to say about Obama, cares more about money than people's lives?
I mean, let's drop apologetics for a minute, stop saying that we can have both, and for the sake of argument just say that that is the trade off: we can institute health care for a drop in economic prosperity. Is a declining dollar value and less disposable income not worth it to you to ensure that people don't die from health concerns? I can't fathom why the housing market and economic growth are so much more ******* important than giving people medicine.
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I mean, let's drop apologetics for a minute, stop saying that we can have both, and for the sake of argument just say that that is the trade off: we can institute health care for a drop in economic prosperity. Is a declining dollar value and less disposable income not worth it to you to ensure that people don't die from health concerns? I can't fathom why the housing market and economic growth are so much more @#%^ing important than giving people medicine.
Well, Its because the wealthy would have to exchange their gold plated limos for silver plated limos.
Obviously.
Pensive,
You're operating under the false assumption that govn healthcare is going to A improve the quality of care and B be more accessable. Neither of which is true. If the value of the dollar is higher and people have more disposable income shouldn't that alone enable them to be able to purchase affordable healthcare? And you're not "giving" anything. You're proposing that you steal from one person to support the poor lifestyle choices of another. That is no way to ensure the prosperity of most of this countries citizens.
And yes the markets are responding to the publics reaction to Obamacare. The fact that it's struggling in the house is the reason the markets are rebounding. Not to mention with the August recess investors are pretty confident that the politicians can't pass this abomination.
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I mean, let's drop apologetics for a minute, stop saying that we can have both, and for the sake of argument just say that that is the trade off: we can institute health care for a drop in economic prosperity. Is a declining dollar value and less disposable income not worth it to you to ensure that people don't die from health concerns? I can't fathom why the housing market and economic growth are so much more @#%^ing important than giving people medicine.
You're operating under the false assumption that govn healthcare is going to A improve the quality of care and B be more accessable. Neither of which is true. If the value of the dollar is higher and people have more disposable income shouldn't that alone enable them to be able to purchase affordable healthcare? And you're not "giving" anything. You're proposing that you steal from one person to support the poor lifestyle choices of another. That is no way to ensure the prosperity of most of this countries citizens.
And yes the markets are responding to the publics reaction to Obamacare. The fact that it's struggling in the house is the reason the markets are rebounding. Not to mention with the August recess investors are pretty confident that the politicians can't pass this abomination.
publiusvarus wrote:
Pensive,
You're operating under the false assumption that govn healthcare is going to A improve the quality of care and B be more accessable. Neither of which is true. If the value of the dollar is higher and people have more disposable income shouldn't that alone enable them to be able to purchase affordable healthcare? And you're not "giving" anything. You're proposing that you steal from one person to support the poor lifestyle choices of another. That is no way to ensure the prosperity of most of this countries citizens.
And yes the markets are responding to the publics reaction to Obamacare. The fact that it's struggling in the house is the reason the markets are rebounding. Not to mention with the August recess investors are pretty confident that the politicians can't pass this abomination.
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I mean, let's drop apologetics for a minute, stop saying that we can have both, and for the sake of argument just say that that is the trade off: we can institute health care for a drop in economic prosperity. Is a declining dollar value and less disposable income not worth it to you to ensure that people don't die from health concerns? I can't fathom why the housing market and economic growth are so much more @#%^ing important than giving people medicine.
You're operating under the false assumption that govn healthcare is going to A improve the quality of care and B be more accessable. Neither of which is true. If the value of the dollar is higher and people have more disposable income shouldn't that alone enable them to be able to purchase affordable healthcare? And you're not "giving" anything. You're proposing that you steal from one person to support the poor lifestyle choices of another. That is no way to ensure the prosperity of most of this countries citizens.
And yes the markets are responding to the publics reaction to Obamacare. The fact that it's struggling in the house is the reason the markets are rebounding. Not to mention with the August recess investors are pretty confident that the politicians can't pass this abomination.
Because people who've paid their taxes and contributed to the country and economy deserve to be kicked in the face when they fall onto hard times amirite?
Princess Miitan wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
Pensive,
You're operating under the false assumption that govn healthcare is going to A improve the quality of care and B be more accessable. Neither of which is true. If the value of the dollar is higher and people have more disposable income shouldn't that alone enable them to be able to purchase affordable healthcare? And you're not "giving" anything. You're proposing that you steal from one person to support the poor lifestyle choices of another. That is no way to ensure the prosperity of most of this countries citizens.
And yes the markets are responding to the publics reaction to Obamacare. The fact that it's struggling in the house is the reason the markets are rebounding. Not to mention with the August recess investors are pretty confident that the politicians can't pass this abomination.
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I mean, let's drop apologetics for a minute, stop saying that we can have both, and for the sake of argument just say that that is the trade off: we can institute health care for a drop in economic prosperity. Is a declining dollar value and less disposable income not worth it to you to ensure that people don't die from health concerns? I can't fathom why the housing market and economic growth are so much more @#%^ing important than giving people medicine.
You're operating under the false assumption that govn healthcare is going to A improve the quality of care and B be more accessable. Neither of which is true. If the value of the dollar is higher and people have more disposable income shouldn't that alone enable them to be able to purchase affordable healthcare? And you're not "giving" anything. You're proposing that you steal from one person to support the poor lifestyle choices of another. That is no way to ensure the prosperity of most of this countries citizens.
And yes the markets are responding to the publics reaction to Obamacare. The fact that it's struggling in the house is the reason the markets are rebounding. Not to mention with the August recess investors are pretty confident that the politicians can't pass this abomination.
Because people who've paid their taxes and contributed to the country and economy deserve to be kicked in the face when they fall onto hard times amirite?
According to Varrus, if they have fallen on hard times it is their own fault, and yes, they should take their lumps and get over it.
Sir Xsarus wrote:
DarthGekko wrote:
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Make no mistake if Obamacare passes the market will shoot back down.
You're hilarious.Varus has himself too invested in this. See, before it was "We haven't had a single positive day on the market since Obama took office!" but that's long since wrong. Then he switched to "The market's still down since Obama took office!" but now it's up over a thousand points since Jan 21. So now it's "The market's up... but only because it HATES OBAMA!!!"
Guaranteed, if the market crashed and health care failed, it'd be all Obama's fault according to Varus. If health care passes and the market breaks 10k, Varus will say that Obama deserves no credit.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
publiusvarus wrote:
You're operating under the false assumption that govn healthcare is going to A improve the quality of care and B be more accessable. Neither of which is true.
Except in all the countries that already have universal health care.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
publiusvarus wrote:
W left the market at 13k.
Hahahahaha!
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Stock Market Closing Prices - 1/20/09
Dow Jones Industrial Average ( DJIA ) Close - 7949.09 Down 332.13
Nasdaq Stock Market Close - 1440.86 Down 88.47
S&P 500 Close - 805.23 Down 44.89
Dow Jones Industrial Average ( DJIA ) Close - 7949.09 Down 332.13
Nasdaq Stock Market Close - 1440.86 Down 88.47
S&P 500 Close - 805.23 Down 44.89
Yeah... 13k. God, you're a tool
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
#24REDACTED,
Posted: Aug 03 2009 at 12:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok I was off a year...
publiusvarus wrote:
Ok I was off a year...
And in that following year, under Bush, the market tanked nearly half its value.
ZOMG THE MARKETS HAET BUSH!!!!!!
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
publiusvarus wrote:
Debo,
Countries like France and the UK? LMAO...good one.
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Except in all the countries that already have universal health care.
Countries like France and the UK? LMAO...good one.
Well, that is the question isn't it? Your response to me didn't delve into our usual ideological differences, but merely said that my assumption is false. I think the best way to test that assumption is to look at the healthcare of nations who already institute more public coverage than we do.
Not that I'd really know how to do that. All I have are anecdotes from various dudes who have immigrated or know on the internet.
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