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#1 Sep 01 2009 at 3:28 PM Rating: Good
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Also what happens when you eat and drive, when you smoke and drive, when you change the radio station, when you input data into GPS....yay! A distraction is a distraction. If you text and drive like that girl, you deserve to end up in a crash.

What they should really work on is car windows that don't spray flying shards of death when you get into an accident....and here I thought we already had those.
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They should have shown this in theaters instead of "The Final Destination".
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#3 Sep 01 2009 at 3:36 PM Rating: Good
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I actually thought over in Europe they used the a different type of safety glass. I know in the US it's basically two sheets of glass with a plastic sheet in the middle to keep it together when they break.

I had read about a plastic coating used on the inside and outside as well, to protect the body from lacerations against the glass. And for some reason, I thought that over in Europe they used that.

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A distraction is a distraction.


Kind of a broad statement, that isn't true. Changing the radio station takes almost zero attention (unless you are down there surfing the seek button or something) most of the time it's just hitting a single button on either your dash or your steering wheel. No where near the same distraction level as texting...
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HunterGamma wrote:
Also what happens when you eat and drive, when you smoke and drive, when you change the radio station, when you input data into GPS....yay!

Well, except not really. A 2007 study found that your average distracted driver (eating a burger, fiddling with the radio) had their eyes off the road 10% of the time. A texting driver has their eyes off the road 40% of the time or more.

You can't legitimately compare texting to changing the radio while driving.
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#5 Sep 01 2009 at 3:46 PM Rating: Default
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My city had a cell phone while driving banned on the ballot last Spring, it lost almost 2 to 1. Reasons? Well we are a college town, you come on a visit with your parents, and they get a ticket, prolly not great for business. It was also written by a very old Republican, and was poorly defined and in my opinion targeted younger people.

Entering data on GPS = OK
Entering data on GPS thats on your phone = Bad!

While older people are likely to have a completely separate GPS unit, 20 somethings tend to have smart phones with GPS.

Changing songs on your Ipod Touch = OK
Changing songs on your Iphone = Bad!

This has little to do with youths, but its very questionable. He was one of my professors, who wrote it, and didn't have good answers why GPS on phone wasn't OK under it, but GPS unit was.
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Some of the comments think that hostile drivers are more of a threat. But I think hostile drivers are just hostile because of people that text/talk on the phone while driving...

I'm a fairly hostile driver. My middle finger gets a work out usually twice a week. I blame the tourists, mostly. Winter months aren't too bad, but as soon as summer hits, it's like every idiot suddenly starts driving.

Like today, after work. I'm driving home, and I come up to a corner that I need to turn onto. But there are two people, one stopped at the stop sign of the road I need to turn onto, and one person that appears to have turned, but is stopped right at the corner talking to the person who was stopped at the stop sign.

So I flip off the driver, honk my horn, and pull up over the curb to drive around him. He just sits there in his truck and continues talking. Then about 5 seconds later, another driver comes up behind him in the same way... and sits there (nicer than I was). By the time I was out of view of the driver, he was still sitting at the corner talking.

I know I would be a much less hostile driver if people would just stop pulling out in front of me, trying to merge into my lane nearly side swiping me (many with phones in their hands), or parking in the middle of the street to gawk at the lakes and forests because they have never seen trees or water in their whole life.
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#7 Sep 01 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you are entering data into a GPS -while- you are driving, urdoinitrong anyway. Seriously. I set mines before I head anywhere and it automatically calculates. No need to try to multitask that.

Texting is far worse, since it requires attention to both read the initial text then formulate a reply.
#8 Sep 01 2009 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I remember hearing of a case where a man hit a child while he was distracted with a beverage. The beverage happened to be a beer, though he had a low BAC.
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would have been funny had they shown the girl texting while on the stretcher.
















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#10 Sep 01 2009 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
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HunterGamma wrote:


What they should really work on is car that don't need people to pilot them....and here I thought we already had those.
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#11 Sep 01 2009 at 5:23 PM Rating: Excellent
I don't text, and I rarely answer my phone. Whoever it is can wait until I get where I'm going, especially when I have the girls in the car.
#12 Sep 01 2009 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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I drive normally with one hand unless it's raining or something else is causing me to be at a disadvantage. So when somebody calls me on my phone I have no problem answering it. I find changing the volume for the speakers to be more distracting than talking on the phone. Texting is rediculous though, I'd be more likely to drink and drive than I would to text while driving.. and I'm not anywhere near likely to do that.

tldr; -> what joph said

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Like today, after work. I'm driving home, and I come up to a corner that I need to turn onto. But there are two people, one stopped at the stop sign of the road I need to turn onto, and one person that appears to have turned, but is stopped right at the corner talking to the person who was stopped at the stop sign.

So I flip off the driver, honk my horn, and pull up over the curb to drive around him. He just sits there in his truck and continues talking. Then about 5 seconds later, another driver comes up behind him in the same way... and sits there (nicer than I was). By the time I was out of view of the driver, he was still sitting at the corner talking.


Yeah um, I'm just gonna ahead and say that you have too much anger while driving. :p Flipping him off if he didn't move after you honked your horn to let him know you're there is ok.. but starting off that way is... yeah.
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#13 Sep 01 2009 at 5:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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You're more distracted than you think you are. According to a recent study you're so distracted when talking on the phone even with a head set that your reflexes are significantly slowed.

Just sayin'.

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#14 Sep 01 2009 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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I've incurred the most potential danger via driving-while-drowsy, myself.

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I can't imagine how anyone would think texting while driving is a good idea. I get wanting to be connected and whatnot, but if you're carrying on a conversation, why not actually call the other person instead of sending text back and forth? It's got to be more efficient and they make these earphone thingies that make it pretty safe to do, even whilst driving.

Some people are just moronic behind the wheel of a car though. I've seen people putting on make-up, shaving, eating food... heck, I once drove past a guy who was reading a book while driving. Not a newspaper, a freaking novel. WTF?
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#16 Sep 01 2009 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Samira wrote:
You're more distracted than you think you are. According to a recent study you're so distracted when talking on the phone even with a head set that your reflexes are significantly slowed.

Just sayin'.



I dare say I might even be less distracted than normal when using a phone. Smiley: tongue
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#17 Sep 01 2009 at 6:35 PM Rating: Excellent
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Samira wrote:
You're more distracted than you think you are. According to a recent study you're so distracted when talking on the phone even with a head set that your reflexes are significantly slowed.


Unless there's been a new study released, that's not quite correct. Lots of "new" articles and papers have been written about this, but most of them are still using older, and honestly flawed, testing methods. Testing distraction levels in a simulator (or some other reaction test) is not going to provide an accurate result. Anything which is "new" to the person taking the test will be a distraction. Adding several of them at once multiplies the effect.

In a 2005 NHTSA test, the biggest distraction for the test subjects was actually wearing a headset. They were constantly fiddling with the supposedly "hands free" device. And in a simulator with which they are not familiar.


I'll make the same statement I made the last time this subject came up. Have people drive their cars on a test course. Not a simulator. Not a test car they've never driven before. Their own cars. Have 50 people who own their own headsets (or have bluetooth in their cars) run the test at various speeds or difficulties. Have 50 other people who use their phones manually do the same. Record the difference. If you want, have a control group which does neither of these things. Do this test many times with different groups of people.

This way you're actually testing how a largish set of people will actually be able to react to real situations they'll encounter while driving (but with cones and foam rubber obstacles instead of real ones). Do this, and I guarantee you that you'll find a dramatic difference between those who drive hands free and those who don't. Once you get used to a handsfree device, it's no more distracting than talking to someone next to you. No amount of being used to talking will eliminate the fact that you take your eyes off the road to dial, and have one hand tied up talking when using a set manually.


Oh. And that's one of the more recent ones. Most of the older "hands free" tests did not use bluetooth headsets or systems, but used the old wired dohickies. So people were often holding the microphone, or fiddling with the wires. Newer sets, once you get used to them, are pretty distraction free.
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HunterGamma wrote:
Also what happens when you eat and drive, when you smoke and drive, when you change the radio station, when you input data into GPS....yay!

Well, except not really. A 2007 study found that your average distracted driver (eating a burger, fiddling with the radio) had their eyes off the road 10% of the time. A texting driver has their eyes off the road 40% of the time or more.

You can't legitimately compare texting to changing the radio while driving.


To further prove Joph's point, which is more deadly: Reaching down and flicking the radio over a bit (keep in mind many cars have buttons on the steering wheels now) or Air drumming Phil Collins' "In the Air Tonight" ?
#20 Sep 01 2009 at 7:24 PM Rating: Decent
I think it's funny when people argue against distraction just because they've never been a victim of it. Studies and tests mean very little with something like this.
#21 Sep 01 2009 at 7:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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When I was younger, I could change gears, eat 3 Krystals and light a cig all at the same time without missing a beat. Now I get distracted by turning the steering wheel.
#22 Sep 01 2009 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I often whip out the DS at long stoplights. Wouldn't bother while actively driving though: it's not like you can concentrate on the game while you're driving anyway!
#23 Sep 01 2009 at 7:36 PM Rating: Good
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I often whip out the DS at long stoplights.


There's a Cleavon Little joke in there somewhere...
#24 Sep 01 2009 at 8:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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To speak to the distraction argument again? it's not the fiddly wires that are a distraction but the fact that you're talking on the phone.

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Samira wrote:
To speak to the distraction argument again? it's not the fiddly wires that are a distraction but the fact that you're talking on the phone.

This is true. Ever have a conversation with the passenger seated next to you and almost miss a turn that you make every day? Or have to completely block out what the person is saying from your brain while you merge onto the highway, or search for a new address?


Edited, Sep 1st 2009 11:44pm by trickybeck
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trickybeck wrote:
Samira wrote:
To speak to the distraction argument again? it's not the fiddly wires that are a distraction but the fact that you're talking on the phone.

This is true. Ever have a conversation with the passenger seated next to you and almost miss a turn that you make every day? Or have to completely block out what the person is saying from your brain while you merge onto the highway, or search for a new address?


Edited, Sep 1st 2009 11:44pm by trickybeck


That's what I was thinking, doesn't matter, phone or next to you, still a distraction. However the biggest distraction I have ever had in the car.... a child!
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