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#102 Sep 08 2009 at 9:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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#103 Sep 08 2009 at 9:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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ThiefX wrote:
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Why, yes, railing against liberals for protesting Bush's speech, and then doing the protesting when it's Obama's turn is hypocritical.

Thank you for pointing that out.

For the record, in my opinion both speeches were perfectly fine and protesting either is the height of silliness.

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#104 Sep 08 2009 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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We've already gone over that in this thread thief. You should probably work on your reading skills a bit.

Smiley: mad@jophiel. I apparently need to post faster.

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#105 Sep 08 2009 at 10:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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We've already gone over that in this thread thief. You should probably work on your reading skills a bit.

Hi! Welcome to the top of Page 3.... Smiley: grin
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#106 Sep 08 2009 at 10:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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For the record, in my opinion both speeches were perfectly fine and protesting either is the height of silliness.

I agree with this but trying to compare the two is asinine anyway.

In Bush's case, the complaint was made after the speech and centered primarily around its cost. At worst, some accused Bush of using the kids as props for a campaign speech but no one was saying the kids were hurt by it.

In Obama's case, it was a shrill cry made a week or more before the speech and centered around accusations that Obama was actively hurting our nation's children by trying to brainwash them into servitude. Think about that: they were saying the President of the United States was planning to intentionally hurt our schoolchildren in advance some evil liberal agenda.

Both speeches were fine but the accusations made in each case don't compare.
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#107 Sep 08 2009 at 10:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Oh, no argument here. One witless woman in Denver was quoted on CNN as saying, paraphrased here, "It just really scares me." What scares you, exactly? The idea that a sitting President is going to address your kid along with the millions of other kids in the country?

Gotta love Manufactured Outrageâ„¢.

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From Technogeek's article:

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Presidents have been talking to schoolchildren ever since we've had schools. And not just presidents. Politicians of all stripes — from Govs. Jeb Bush and Lawton Chiles to Mayors Buddy Dyer and Rich Crotty. In fact, as I sit here, rereading the previous two paragraphs, I find myself amazed that I even had to kill trees to print such obvious statements. Are we really so far removed from reality that we don't understand the value of a president encouraging children to work hard?


QFT.

Edited, Sep 8th 2009 5:06pm by Annabella
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#110 Sep 08 2009 at 1:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Unlike the Obama speech, in 1991 most of the controversy came after, not before, the president's school appearance. The day after Bush spoke, the Washington Post published a front-page story suggesting the speech was carefully staged for the president's political benefit. "The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props," the Post reported.

With the Post article in hand, Democrats pounced. "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," said Richard Gephardt, then the House Majority Leader. "And the president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action.'"


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Oh, no argument here. One witless woman in Denver was quoted on CNN as saying, paraphrased here, "It just really scares me." What scares you, exactly? The idea that a sitting President is going to address your kid along with the millions of other kids in the country?

Gotta love Manufactured Outrageâ„¢.


I was listening to Limbaugh today as I drove to get lunch, and he informed me that not only was Obama's speech about personal responsibility bad because it wasn't something Obama believed in, but that his *original* speech *wink, wink* was a "deal leader" set of instructions indoctrinating children that was only changed at the last minute when the nation was rescued by the brave voice of dissent from the masses.

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#112 Sep 08 2009 at 4:56 PM Rating: Good
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Apparently the speech made quite a good impact on my son. He rarely comes home and volunteers information about his day. But today he made a point to tell me that "Barack told me I should stay in school and graduate". That's about all he remembers (he's 7), but the fact that he remembered it at all is amazing. He usually forgets things 30 seconds after they happen. (Dad leaves for work, makes a point of telling Noah he's leaving, 20 second later 'Mom, where's Dad?')
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INDOCTRINATED!!!
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#114 Sep 08 2009 at 5:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
INDOCTRINATED!!!


Obama should have told him to listen to his parents and clean his damn room. Smiley: motz
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Jophiel wrote:
INDOCTRINATED!!!


Obama should have told him to listen to his parents and clean his damn room. Smiley: motz


Also: this.

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