Timelordwho wrote:
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Because the rewards they offer are proportional to the lack of productivity of the individual instead of the other way around?
And yet the majority of people are productive members of society even with it's existence.
But that majority is fewer than would be productive without its existence.
As I explained, it's not that they are "incompatible", but that one act in a way that is opposed to the other. Capitalism increases total productivity and wealth within a society. Entitlement mechanisms decrease total productivity and wealth within a society. That's not a matter of opinion. It's just how the two systems work.
The question isn't about that, but whether or not you're ok with the productivity cost of said entitlement when compared with the benefit gained. This is not an absolute, either. Some programs may be acceptable to some people, while others are not. Some will be ok with any programs, others will be opposed to all. That's the real subjective piece of this, but it's annoying that so many seek to avoid that evaluation and insist that somehow there's no cost at all to provide said benefits in the first place. Of course there is.
I chose to respond because the idea being presented is a common one. It's designed to avoid evaluating the cost of entitlement by implying that there isn't one or that somehow it doesn't "hurt" capitalism at all to employ entitlement based programs. Well, it's not really about hurting capitalism. It's just an idea. It can't be hurt. But the people can be. And when my taxes are raised, it hurts me. When I have fewer job opportunities, it hurts me. If I get a smaller raise, or don't get a promotion because my boss can't afford it, it hurts me.
It's not the ideas that are harmed, but the people. The question is: How much harm are we willing to accept in order to provide X amount of help. I have never taken an absolute position against entitlement, and it's a strawman argument to insist that I have to. My position has always been that we must assess the relative cost versus the relative gains in each and every case. Just because I agree that paying for public education does not mean that I can't oppose paying for free medical care. One is not the same as the other...