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#1 Sep 21 2009 at 12:40 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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#2 Sep 21 2009 at 12:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Circular reasoning?

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#3 Sep 21 2009 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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#4 Sep 21 2009 at 12:50 PM Rating: Good
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This needed to be a new thread?
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Well, it pushed this thread off Page 1 which was no great loss.
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#7 Sep 21 2009 at 1:45 PM Rating: Good
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My urge to bump that thread is curtailed only by my disdain for it.
#8 Sep 21 2009 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm always amusing when the right wingers on the forum either completely miss the snark or deliberately ignore it.

Edit: And in the spirit of not making new threads for things that probably don't need them, I had a revelation a while ago regarding when I starting having socialist, liberal, left-leaning thoughts. It was in middle school, when I read Bruce Coville's My Teacher Is an Alien series. Looking back, some right-winger would probably declare it socialist propaganda if they ever actually read the contents of the whole series.

The line that stands out the most is when the main character, who is visiting his mentor's home world for the first time (in the book My Teacher Flunked The Planet), notices that there aren't any poor people. No one is homeless. Some obviously have more wealth than others, but everyone is healthy, well dressed, and appears to be happy.

"How come you don't have any poor people?" he asked.

"Because we decided that we didn't want it to be that way."

There you go. Socialist indoctrination disguised as kid's science fiction books. Diabolical!

Edited, Sep 21st 2009 5:58pm by catwho
#9 Sep 21 2009 at 3:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm confused, his own witty comeback is the reason why liberals shouldn't be in charge? Because they are susceptible to witty comebacks, or...?


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You give him a bit too much credit.
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CBD wrote:
trickybeck wrote:
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You give him a bit too much credit. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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MentalFrog wrote:
CBD wrote:
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You give him a bit too much credit. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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#14gbaji, Posted: Sep 21 2009 at 9:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Um... Yeah. Pretty much exactly as if they'd traveled to said planet and realized there was no government, asked about it and got the reply "Because we decided we didn't need one anymore", you'd likely be a conservative today.
#15 Sep 21 2009 at 10:14 PM Rating: Good
Yep! There's a reason it's called liberal arts, too!
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You know, gbaji, rather than be little pussies about it, more republicans could go into education and teach too. No one is stopping you from it. Why don't you become a teacher?
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#17 Sep 21 2009 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Well. If it and every other book you read in school and teacher you had expressed the same opinions that is.


Both my government and economics teachers were republicans, and actively discouraged "socialist" policy as both unconstitutional and unworkable practically.

As you can see, I grew up to be quite fiscally conservative, as well as practical.

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These were not one-offs. Most teachers I've had from at least middle school up were the same. A few seemed to have more democratic (but not liberal) leanings. Most parents and community figures were both religious and right. My own are quite conservative and democrat (not liberal.)

I'm sure will be totally contradicting yourself right now and pulling some "rebellion" card. Please do.

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gbaji wrote:
Um... Yeah. Pretty much exactly as if they'd traveled to said planet and realized there was no government, asked about it and got the reply "Because we decided we didn't need one anymore", you'd likely be a conservative today.


I think that just proves how inane it is to draw those kinds of tenuous links.

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Well. If it and every other book you read in school and teacher you had expressed the same opinions that is. It's funny that you mention this, but are likely unaware just how many little things like that you were surrounded with as a child. There's a reason why the Left has focused on education and it's not really about making people more educated...


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You know, gbaji, rather than be little pussies about it, more republicans could go into education and teach too. No one is stopping you from it. Why don't you become a teacher?


Teaching doesn't pay enough for fiscal conservatives. Or sane people.
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How much does teaching pay down there? Around here, it pays enough to put you comfortably into Middle class. Take the time to go back and get your Masters in Education and it jumps you by 35-45%. That's in NS, I have no idea what it's like in the rest of Canada.
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How much does teaching pay down there? Around here, it pays enough to put you comfortably into Middle class. Take the time to go back and get your Masters in Education and it jumps you by 35-45%. That's in NS, I have no idea what it's like in the rest of Canada.


Which is like starting pay for someone right out of 4yr college.
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In what world do people coming right out of college get any work that's more than 20% above minimum wage, unless they're a trade?
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How much does teaching pay down there?

It depends on a lot of things. Low end of the scale for someone with a 4-year teaching at an elementry/secondary level is around $30k. You can make more by volunteering to lead after school clubs, supervising activities, etc. My pedagogy instructor said she made most of her extra money by learning to write grant applications.

The more experience you have and higher level degree you have, the more you get paid. It's typically a pretty solid ladder nailed down by union negotiations so anyone in a school district with (for example) seven years experience and a masters makes the same amount of base pay. I'm too lazy to dig out my old schedules, if I even kept them, and see how much a Masters bumps you.
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#24 Sep 22 2009 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent
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gbaji wrote:
There's a reason why the Left has focused on education and it's not really about making people more educated...
The last big educational legislation was very much a conservative effort. If teachers happen to tend towards the liberal - maybe there is a lesson to be learned there.

Rest assured, however, there is no secret society or hidden agenda to recruit dirty liberal teachers to infiltrate our schools.

Back to earth boy.
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You know, gbaji, rather than be little pussies about it, more republicans could go into education and teach too. No one is stopping you from it. Why don't you become a teacher?

I bring that up on a regular basis. Even if the excuse is the money, it's good to know that the Republicans would rather sell out our children's minds and souls for a few extra bucks than to make a sacrifice and save the little urchins from the Liberal Brainwashing Machine.
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