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#27 Oct 13 2009 at 3:58 PM Rating: Good
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Jophed,

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Nah, I'm feeling pretty good about the day's events. Unlike you, I guess.


It's a good thing I don't let socialists determined to destroy our country get me down.


Well, at least they're determined, eh? Wouldn't want them to turn their backs on old fashioned American values.
#28 Oct 13 2009 at 3:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Also, the "Founding Fathers" actually refer to Rush and O'Reilly.
#29 Oct 13 2009 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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Why is socialism such a bugbear for you?


He was ambushed by an entire pack of them when he was a wee level 2 ranger, and he wanted the bonuses against them as a favoured enemy.
#30 Oct 13 2009 at 4:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
He was ambushed by an entire pack of them when he was a wee level 2 ranger, and he wanted the bonuses against them as a favoured enemy.

Yeah, but even if he was playing a melee ranger why would he make wisdom his dump stat?
#31 Oct 13 2009 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
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ITT: Varrus is actually Belkar Bitterleaf.

Edited, Oct 13th 2009 5:46pm by AshOnMyTomatoes
#32 Oct 13 2009 at 4:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Pssh, he wishes he were that cool.

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Pensive the Ludicrous wrote:
He was ambushed by an entire pack of them when he was a wee level 2 ranger, and he wanted the bonuses against them as a favoured enemy.

Yeah, but even if he was playing a melee ranger why would he make wisdom his dump stat?


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#36 Oct 13 2009 at 5:23 PM Rating: Good
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Also, the "Founding Fathers" actually refer to Rush and O'Reilly.


So, how do you feel about Rush Limbaugh trying to buy the St. Louis Rams?

NFL Players executive director DeMaurice Smith wrote:
I've spoken to the Commissioner [Roger Goodell] and I understand that this ownership consideration is in the early stages. But sport in America is at its best when it unifies, gives all of us reason to cheer, and when it transcends. Our sport does exactly that when it overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred.


[:fuckingCLAP:]

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#37 Oct 13 2009 at 5:37 PM Rating: Good
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BrownDuck wrote:
Professor AshOnMyTomatoes wrote:
Also, the "Founding Fathers" actually refer to Rush and O'Reilly.


So, how do you feel about Rush Limbaugh trying to buy the St. Louis Rams?

NFL Players executive director DeMaurice Smith wrote:
I've spoken to the Commissioner [Roger Goodell] and I understand that this ownership consideration is in the early stages. But sport in America is at its best when it unifies, gives all of us reason to cheer, and when it transcends. Our sport does exactly that when it overcomes division and rejects discrimination and hatred.


[:fuckingCLAP:]

Edited, Oct 13th 2009 6:24pm by BrownDuck

Edited, Oct 13th 2009 6:26pm by BrownDuck
Overall, I'm pretty "meh" about it, because I don't give a **** about football. But the fact that he's got a tie in St. Louis does give me an extra reason to loathe the place.
#38 Oct 13 2009 at 5:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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But the fact that he's got a tie in St. Louis does give me an extra reason to loathe the place.


No real tie-in yet. The players union is unanimously rejecting his attempt. Whether that holds any real clout I'm not sure, but suffice it to say the NFL's made it pretty clear his hand isn't welcome at the table.
#39ThiefX, Posted: Oct 13 2009 at 5:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Before all of you socialist get to excited
#40 Oct 13 2009 at 5:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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*Shrug*

Work to be done, votes to be had, etc etc. The GOP will continue to oppose it, Democrats will continue to work to build a bill that they can get the votes on. Nothing you linked to changes any of that.

I liked McConnell's statement though. Remember back in August when the GOP was declaring health care reform dead? It'd be more shocking to not see ole Mitch trying to buck up the troops in the face of shambling zombie health care reform, back from the dead and continuing to move forward.
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#41 Oct 13 2009 at 7:51 PM Rating: Good
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So how many folk here tried to go see the New Faces of the Repug party or check out their twitter post before it got pulled? I wouldn't have heard of either if it wasn't for the NYT's Caucus blog post. Guess today just wasn't a good day for them to try to show how cool they are.

Then it sounds a lot like bragging about how much you spent on dinner and then ruin a good cut of meat with by marinading it in Worcestershire sauce. All it should need is a touch of garlic rub on each side and few grinds of black pepper before you put it under the broiler for a few minutes for side. Then my mother only bought prime aged beef from Magruders on Conn Ave., when I was a child.
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#42 Oct 13 2009 at 8:18 PM Rating: Excellent
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Why is socialism such a bugbear for you? There's nothing in the founding documents about capitalism being the bestest economic system ever.
I think it's the whole 'social' part.
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#43 Oct 14 2009 at 12:10 AM Rating: Decent
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ITT: Varrus is actually Belkar Bitterleaf.

Edited, Oct 13th 2009 5:46pm by AshOnMyTomatoes


That is why wizards should learn light of venya. It can heal 6d6 at dismissal, iirc.
#44 Oct 14 2009 at 9:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sounds like she's being threatened.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/62727-sens-snowe-risks-perch

Disclaimer: I don't really know what this committee is for or how people are picked, but I glanced at this earlier and wanted to contribute

One of the analysts from The Politico was on the radio this morning saying that he doubted the GOP would do much to punish Snowe for her vote, instead relying on her caveat that she may not support the final bill as their out. Simply put, they're at 40 votes right now and can't afford risking another defection by making her stay in the GOP untenable through blocking her committee spots, etc.
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#45 Oct 14 2009 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
Hooray for Susan Collins, as well, eh?

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WASHINGTON – A second Republican senator signaled Wednesday she's open to voting for sweeping health care legislation this year, putting President Barack Obama closer to a historic achievement that has eluded generations of Democratic leaders.

But Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, told The Associated Press that the bill approved Tuesday by the Finance Committee needs substantial improvements to make coverage more affordable, contain costs, and protect Medicare. Nevertheless, she joined her Maine GOP colleague Sen. Olympia Snowe in endorsing the goal of far-reaching changes.

"My hope is we that can fix the flaws in the bill and come together with a truly bipartisan bill that could garner widespread support," Collins said in an interview. "I think this bill is far superior to the ones passed by the Senate (health) committee and the three House committees, but it needs substantial additional work."
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The further the bill goes along, I think you'll see more (moderate) Republicans offering tepid and conditional support which will eventually translate into a handful of GOP votes. It's increasingly looking like a reform bill will be passed in 2009 and any reform bill will be a victory for the Democrats and a defeat for the GOP which has vested itself in blocking anything. When there'll be a clear winner and a clear loser, you'll see some people who decide they want to be on the winner's side, explaining their choice with quotes of "It's not perfect but it's a start" and "Well, we stopped them from getting X" and "The time in history is now", etc.
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#47 Oct 14 2009 at 1:54 PM Rating: Default
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The further the bill goes along, I think you'll see more (moderate) Republicans offering tepid and conditional support which will eventually translate into a handful of GOP votes. It's increasingly looking like a reform bill will be passed in 2009 and any reform bill will be a victory for the Democrats and a defeat for the GOP which has vested itself in blocking anything. When there'll be a clear winner and a clear loser, you'll see some people who decide they want to be on the winner's side, explaining their choice with quotes of "It's not perfect but it's a start" and "Well, we stopped them from getting X" and "The time in history is now", etc.


The objective from the start has not been to block any and all health care reform Joph. That's a wonderful Liberal talking point, but it's never been true. The objective from the Right has always been to create health reform that actually reforms the health care industry, not just change who pays for it and how.
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#48 Oct 14 2009 at 1:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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The objective from the start has not been to block any and all health care reform Joph. That's a wonderful Liberal talking point, but it's never been true. The objective from the Right has always been to create health reform that actually reforms the health care industry, not just change who pays for it and how.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0709/Health_reform_foes_plan_Obamas_Waterloo.html

Sen. Jim Demint wrote:
If we’re able to stop Obama on this it will be his Waterloo. It will break him


Pretty @#%^ing cut and dry if you ask me.

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The objective from the start has not been to block any and all health care reform Joph.

Smiley: laughSmiley: laughSmiley: laugh

It's precious that you believe that.
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#50 Oct 14 2009 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
The further the bill goes along, I think you'll see more (moderate) Republicans offering tepid and conditional support which will eventually translate into a handful of GOP votes. It's increasingly looking like a reform bill will be passed in 2009 and any reform bill will be a victory for the Democrats and a defeat for the GOP which has vested itself in blocking anything. When there'll be a clear winner and a clear loser, you'll see some people who decide they want to be on the winner's side, explaining their choice with quotes of "It's not perfect but it's a start" and "Well, we stopped them from getting X" and "The time in history is now", etc.


The objective from the start has not been to block any and all health care reform Joph. That's a wonderful Liberal talking point, but it's never been true. The objective from the Right has always been to create health reform that actually reforms the health care industry, not just change who pays for it and how.


I see... so point me to all the health care reform bills they proposed. I'm waiting...
#51 Oct 14 2009 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
The further the bill goes along, I think you'll see more (moderate) Republicans offering tepid and conditional support which will eventually translate into a handful of GOP votes. It's increasingly looking like a reform bill will be passed in 2009 and any reform bill will be a victory for the Democrats and a defeat for the GOP which has vested itself in blocking anything. When there'll be a clear winner and a clear loser, you'll see some people who decide they want to be on the winner's side, explaining their choice with quotes of "It's not perfect but it's a start" and "Well, we stopped them from getting X" and "The time in history is now", etc.


The objective from the start has not been to block any and all health care reform Joph. That's a wonderful Liberal talking point, but it's never been true. The objective from the Right has always been to create health reform that actually reforms the health care industry, not just change who pays for it and how.


I see... so point me to all the health care reform bills they proposed. I'm waiting...


You don't really suppose they have to for actually contributing? Any idea how much time goes into naysaying and blaming the democrats for everything?
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