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#1 Oct 22 2009 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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Listening to Eminem is like torture!

(CNN) -- A coalition of top musicians, including R.E.M. and Pearl Jam, want to know if their music was used by the U.S. military as part of controversial interrogation methods at the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

I wonder what Michael Stipe plans to do if his music has been used as background music for torturing folks. Put out some fresh beats?


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#2 Oct 22 2009 at 12:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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I wonder what Michael Stipe plans to do if his music has been used as background music for torturing folks.

"What's the frequency, CIA?"

That'll burn 'em but good...
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#3 Oct 22 2009 at 1:03 PM Rating: Excellent
If you make songs called "Everybody hurts", don't come whining when it's used in a torturing process. The title sounds like some kind of motivational anthem for the torturers.
#4 Oct 22 2009 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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12.11.08: Regarding NIN music used at Guantanamo Bay for torture
It's difficult for me to imagine anything more profoundly insulting, demeaning and enraging than discovering music you've put your heart and soul into creating has been used for purposes of torture.
If there are any legal options that can be realistically taken they will be aggressively pursued, with any potential monetary gains donated to human rights charities.
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“There was loud music, (Eminem’s) ‘Slim Shady’ and Dr. Dre for 20 days. I heard this nonstop over and over,” he told his lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith. “The CIA worked on people, including me, day and night for the months before I left. Plenty lost their minds.”

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Ruhal Ahmed, a Briton who was captured in Afghanistan, describes excruciating sessions at Guantanamo Bay. He said his hands were shackled to his feet, which were shackled to the floor, forcing him into a painful squat for periods of up to two days.

“You’re in agony,” Ahmed, who was released without charge in 2004, told Reprieve. He said the agony was compounded when music was introduced, because “before you could actually concentrate on something else, try to make yourself focus on some other things in your life that you did before and take that pain away.

“It makes you feel like you are going mad,” he said.

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He said he was locked in an overcooled 9-foot-by-9-foot cell that had a speaker with a metal grate over it. Two large speakers stood in the hallway outside. The music was almost constant, mostly hard rock, he said.

“There was a lot of Nine Inch Nails, including ‘March of the Pigs,”’ he said. “I couldn’t tell you how many times I heard Queen’s ‘We Will Rock You.”’

He wore only a jumpsuit and flip-flops and had no protection from the cold.

“I had no blanket or sheet. If I had, I would probably have tried suicide,” he said. “I got to a few points toward the end where I thought, ‘How can I do this?’ Actively plotting, ‘How can I get away with it so they don’t stop it?”’

Asked to describe the experience, Vance said: “It sort of removes you from you. You can no longer formulate your own thoughts when you’re in an environment like that.”

He was released after 97 days. Two years later, he says, “I keep my home very quiet.”


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28144557

Posted a thread about this after I saw the original quote on the Nine Inch Nails site while checking tour dates. Just in case you were interested in seeing more.

Edit: Meh, article quote isn't full article, MSNBC link is still available.

Edited, Oct 22nd 2009 2:32pm by Paskil
#5 Oct 22 2009 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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A coalition of top musicians, including R.E.M. and Pearl Jam, want to know if their music was used by the U.S. military as part of controversial interrogation methods at the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.



Does it matter? Assuming the military went out and bought the CDs, are they not then entitled to play it as loudly and as frequently as they choose too?
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#6 Oct 22 2009 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
For themselves, yes.

The RIAA has been very definite about broadcasting their music in public or private spaces without their permission, however, and this technically might fall under that if it was place for more than one inmate over the PA system.

God, I can't believe I'm hoping the RIAA backs up the musicians on this one.
#7 Oct 22 2009 at 8:38 PM Rating: Decent
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A coalition of top musicians, including R.E.M. and Pearl Jam, want to know if their music was used by the U.S. military as part of controversial interrogation methods at the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

Does it matter? Assuming the military went out and bought the CDs, are they not then entitled to play it as loudly and as frequently as they choose too?

I would guess that it's a different matter when it's a government-supported action to play the CDs, rather than a few individual soldiers playing it in their barracks, though I don't know the law on it.
#8 Oct 23 2009 at 6:26 AM Rating: Default
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“There was loud music, (Eminem’s) ‘Slim Shady’ and Dr. Dre for 20 days. I heard this nonstop over and over,” he told his lawyer, Clive Stafford Smith.



That is torture? I don't know who the pussies are. The torturers or the prisoners.


Hmm.... maybe I can sue the pub near my house a couple million bucks for torturing me on weekends.

Edited, Oct 23rd 2009 8:30am by McGame
#9 Oct 23 2009 at 6:34 AM Rating: Good
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I have been making 2 month visits to this docs office for about a year now. He is a misplaced cowboy apparently - trapped in New England. He has country music blaring in the waiting room. The decor is all wrustlers, boots, steers and rope. He wears cowboy boots and I think a cowboy hat. At least there is a fancy stetson type always sitting on a display hat rack in his office - but maybe it's just for looks.

It's weird and makes the whole episode to the icky doctors office more tortuous.
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#10 Oct 23 2009 at 6:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, I always heard they used loud heavy metal music because it was unlike anything they've ever heard in their homelands. I also heard in the same breath that they actually used Snuffleupagus in full costume to scare terror suspects into telling the truth.

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I also heard in the same breath that they actually used Snuffleupagus in full costume to scare terror suspects into telling the truth.


Attempts to scare suspects into a confession by using Amatullah, the Urban Dwelling Camel proved less fruitful.

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