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#102 Dec 10 2009 at 9:35 AM Rating: Good
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Can you tell me of a specific example where Obama has deprived you of "liberty" and "property rights"? Seriously, since his election, what property rights have you lost? What liberties have you lost?


None, yet. But if "Obamacare" passes, then Varrus might have to pay more taxes. Like, almost 5% more.

The horror, I know. Because that measly 5% is more important than the people in mountains of medical debt and the people who die because they don't have health insurance.
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#103 Dec 10 2009 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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When does this story veer off into to the sex-addiction discussion?
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#104 Dec 10 2009 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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When does this story veer off into to the sex-addiction discussion?


No time like the present, I suppose.

Is that the newest soundbite to come out of this story (no pun intended)? That Tiger is a sex addict?
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#106 Dec 10 2009 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Money is property and can provide liberty. Obama is doing his best to deny me of this property and the power it has. All so people who don't work or choose not to buy health insurance, instead of cigs and beer,black people can be taken care of.


We get it, you don't like black people.
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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When does this story veer off into to the sex-addiction discussion?


No time like the present, I suppose.

Is that the newest soundbite to come out of this story (no pun intended)? That Tiger is a sex addict?


That's going to be tough for a marketing standpoint since Tiger's endorsements have been based on at least family-friendly marketing. I think a lot of how his marketing and endorsements are going to be handled is directly related to how his wife is going to handle this.
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None, yet. But if "Obamacare" passes, then Varrus might have to pay more taxes. Like, almost 5% more.


You're so naive. If Obamacare passes small businesses will see a minimum 10% increase in their overhead. This will keep them from growing, especially considering the state of the economy. And if houses aren't being built and sold and cars aren't being built and sold then I don't sell as much insurance which also makes me scale down the size of my operation to account for the declining economy. All so people who don't produce and are generally irresponsible can have mediocre healthcare. Not for me thank you.



You do realize that when this passes, health insurance will be mandatory, right?

And auto insurance is already mandatory, and homeowners is mandatory if you have a mortgage.

You're going to be fine, little boy. No worries.

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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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When does this story veer off into to the sex-addiction discussion?


No time like the present, I suppose.

Is that the newest soundbite to come out of this story (no pun intended)? That Tiger is a sex addict?


That's going to be tough for a marketing standpoint since Tiger's endorsements have been based on at least family-friendly marketing. I think a lot of how his marketing and endorsements are going to be handled is directly related to how his wife is going to handle this.


It's funny, 'cause you just agreed with Varrus.

I've seen very little commercials with Tiger in them, aside from the razor commercial, so I can't say whether you're both right or not, honestly. And razor blades aren't exactly "family friendly."
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#111 Dec 10 2009 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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Money is property and can provide liberty.


Right. So, just so we're clear, anyone who increases taxes becomes the "ennemy of anyone who values liberty and property rights"?
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#112 Dec 10 2009 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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When does this story veer off into to the sex-addiction discussion?


No time like the present, I suppose.

Is that the newest soundbite to come out of this story (no pun intended)? That Tiger is a sex addict?


That's going to be tough for a marketing standpoint since Tiger's endorsements have been based on at least family-friendly marketing. I think a lot of how his marketing and endorsements are going to be handled is directly related to how his wife is going to handle this.


It's funny, 'cause you just agreed with Varrus.

I've seen very little commercials with Tiger in them, aside from the razor commercial, so I can't say whether you're both right or not, honestly. And razor blades aren't exactly "family friendly."


Gatorade is pulling their Tiger drink, but they claim that was going to be pulled anyways in December.

Nike

Maybe because San Diego has fairly strong golf segment that commercials with Tiger Woods is fairly frequent. But I can't remember seeing one since Thanksgiving weekend.

Yup, most of the companies that have endorsement or marketing agreements with him are doing a hold off and let's see stance.
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That's going to be tough for a marketing standpoint since Tiger's endorsements have been based on at least family-friendly marketing. I think a lot of how his marketing and endorsements are going to be handled is directly related to how his wife is going to handle this.


You can't pull sponsorships if the guy is a victim of a serious medical condition.

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I've seen very little commercials with Tiger in them, aside from the razor commercial, so I can't say whether you're both right or not, honestly. And razor blades aren't exactly "family friendly."


Sidenote: Why the hell is the value of the contents of a truck full of razor blades greater than then a truck full of plasma TVs?
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#114 Dec 10 2009 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
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Gatorade is pulling their Tiger drink, but they claim that was going to be pulled anyways in December.

Nike

Maybe because San Diego has fairly strong golf segment that commercials with Tiger Woods is fairly frequent. But I can't remember seeing one since Thanksgiving weekend.

Yup, most of the companies that have endorsement or marketing agreements with him are doing a hold off and let's see stance.


Bummer for him.

I think part of it is that I don't really watch any sports or anything, so I don't see many commercials with him in it.
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#115 Dec 10 2009 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Gatorade is pulling their Tiger drink, but they claim that was going to be pulled anyways in December.

Nike

Maybe because San Diego has fairly strong golf segment that commercials with Tiger Woods is fairly frequent. But I can't remember seeing one since Thanksgiving weekend.

Yup, most of the companies that have endorsement or marketing agreements with him are doing a hold off and let's see stance.


Bummer for him.


Not really. Even if he never did another advert, he'd still have more money than he could spend in a lifetime.
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#116 Dec 10 2009 at 10:43 AM Rating: Excellent
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LOL at Nike acting self righteous. Smiley: laugh

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It's not a foregone conclusion that it's going to pass.

Pretty much at this point. Something will pass. The repercussions of passing a weak bill will still be less than the repercussions of failing to pass a bill entirely. But I'm pretty happy with the "compromise" legislation they're talking about which would make the bill, ironically enough, pretty close to what Obama advocated during the primaries.
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#119 Dec 10 2009 at 11:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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You're so naive. If Obamacare passes small businesses will see a minimum 10% increase in their overhead. This will keep them from growing, especially considering the state of the economy. And if houses aren't being built and sold and cars aren't being built and sold then I don't sell as much insurance which also makes me scale down the size of my operation to account for the declining economy. All so people who don't produce and are generally irresponsible can have mediocre healthcare. Not for me thank you.


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And auto insurance is already mandatory, and homeowners is mandatory if you have a mortgage.


woosh...That completely went over your head. If people aren't buying homes or cars then what the h*ll am I going to insure?


So... are they homeless, then? They'd have to rent, right? And then they'd need renters insurance. And they'll still have their old cars, which will have to be insured.

You live in Tennessee. I don't think that public transit is going to take a whole lot of your client base. I'm sure there's a bus system in Knoxville, but there are still going to be plenty of commuters and college kids with rich parents. You'll be fine, dear.
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That's going to be tough for a marketing standpoint since Tiger's endorsements have been based on at least family-friendly marketing. I think a lot of how his marketing and endorsements are going to be handled is directly related to how his wife is going to handle this.
Do you have any idea how many companies are in line to be able to endorse him? Worst case scenario for him is instead of $100 million a year, he earns $80 million. Now, $20 million is a lot to your or I, but not a huge impact for a billionaire.
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#122 Dec 10 2009 at 11:35 PM Rating: Good
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It may be when his wife gets half.

I'm unsure of whether or not her has kids, but if he does, can you say alimony ca-ching?
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#123 Dec 11 2009 at 12:01 PM Rating: Good
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It may be when his wife gets half.

I'm unsure of whether or not her has kids, but if he does, can you say alimony ca-ching?


I say again: If she really did assault him, then she shouldn't get squat.
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#124 Dec 11 2009 at 12:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
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It may be when his wife gets half.

I'm unsure of whether or not her has kids, but if he does, can you say alimony ca-ching?


I say again: If she really did assault him, then she shouldn't get squat.


I see your point, but I could also see an argument for extreme provocation causing her to lose her mind control.



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I see your point, but I could also see an argument for extreme provocation causing her to lose her mind control.
What's to stop her from losing her minds on the kids? They know how to create extreme provocation too. I'm not sure chasing someone with a gold club and then smashing out their window counts as something the courts let slide. There's an awful lot of time to realize you're going overboard.
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#126 Dec 11 2009 at 12:48 PM Rating: Excellent
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When the kids cheat on her repeatedly, I'll gauge her reaction accordingly.

I'm not saying it does excuse her. I don't know what was said, or what he did before she grabbed that golf club. It's none of my business.

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