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#252 Jan 20 2010 at 11:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
I get that gbaji, for some odd reason, thinks that only "natural children" matter, but that's preposterous. So marriage can be for kids, and still make sense to allow homosexuals to marry.
Realistically, if he was really about the dollars and the pennies and little babies, he'd be pushing to allow homosexuals to marry and create stable homes where they can then adopt children and remove them from being wards of the state, wehre they are costing tax payers far more money than the benefits accorded to homosexuals that marry and where they can grow up in a home that will turn them in productive members of society. But it really isn't about the money, or the kids. It's about backing the Republicans party line.
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#253 Jan 20 2010 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
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But it really isn't about the money, or the kids. It's about backing the Republicans party line. the fear that gays raising kids will produce more gays.
#254 Jan 20 2010 at 12:20 PM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
But it really isn't about the money, or the kids. It's about backing the Republicans party line.


But Gbaji's BS isn't the Republican party line. The Pubes (and hell, even Virus himself) are at least honest enough to give homophobic rationale for their homophobic agenda. Gbaji is literally the only person I've seen ANYWHERE who espouses that particular rationale for why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed.

My personal theory--and I could be way off base here--is that Gbaji is actually telling the truth when he says he's not anti-gay. I think somewhere in the deep, dark recesses of his own mind that he himself doesn't dare investigate too closely, he's appalled by the blatant homophobia and anti-gay rhetoric the GOP employs on this issue. Then he comes up against a cognitive dissonance because he still wants to support the GOP, but can't support their homophobic platform. To resolve the dissonance, he has concocted a rationale against gay marriage that still supports the Republican agenda without being homophobic, and tries to pass it off as being the actual Republican rationale.

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 10:29am by Ambrya
#255 Jan 20 2010 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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No no, it's about backing the party. Sorry, one word too many. I don't think gbaji's homophobic like Varus and many of the other Republicans, but if they say no marriage for ******, he's got to find another way to support that stance.
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#256 Jan 20 2010 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
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Uglysasquatch, Mercenary Major wrote:
No no, it's about backing the party. Sorry, one word too many. I don't think gbaji's homophobic like Varus and many of the other Republicans, but if they say no marriage for ******, he's got to find another way to support that stance.


Umm...yeah. Pretty much what I said.
#257REDACTED, Posted: Jan 20 2010 at 12:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ambrya,
#258 Jan 20 2010 at 12:57 PM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:

homophobic rant is homophobic



Yeah. That.
#259 Jan 20 2010 at 12:57 PM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
Ambrya,

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But Gbaji's BS isn't the Republican party line. The Pubes (and hell, even Virus himself) are at least honest enough to give homophobic rationale for their homophobic agenda.


Homophobic? I'm not afaid of homosexuality. I am afraid of what the homosexual agenda is doing to the morals of this country. Homosexuality is an unhealthy lifestyle choice, like incest and polygamy, and I don't think our govn should be in the business of endorsing unhealthy life choices.



What part of being physically and emotionally attracted to a person of the same gender is unhealthy?
#260 Jan 20 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Even Varus's reasons, asinine as they may be, sound more sincere than Gbaji's logic-maze of conjecture and false assumptions.
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#261REDACTED, Posted: Jan 20 2010 at 1:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ehcks,
#262 Jan 20 2010 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Ehcks wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
Ambrya,

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But Gbaji's BS isn't the Republican party line. The Pubes (and hell, even Virus himself) are at least honest enough to give homophobic rationale for their homophobic agenda.


Homophobic? I'm not afaid of homosexuality. I am afraid of what the homosexual agenda is doing to the morals of this country. Homosexuality is an unhealthy lifestyle choice, like incest and polygamy, and I don't think our govn should be in the business of endorsing unhealthy life choices.



What part of being physically and emotionally attracted to a person of the same gender is unhealthy?
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#263 Jan 20 2010 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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Because 2 gay men having sex with only each other will somehow infect us all with AIDS.
#264 Jan 20 2010 at 1:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
Because 2 gay men having sex with only each other will somehow infect us all with AIDS.


It's Virus's take on spontaneous generation.

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#265 Jan 20 2010 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
Ehcks,

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What part of being physically and emotionally attracted to a person of the same gender is unhealthy?


I'm sure i've gone over this somewhere in this thread.

You can be physically and emotionally attracted to someone that is unhealthy for you.


Of course, but that doesn't answer the question. You were asked specifically what about the attraction is unhealthy.

edit: and before we run this in a circle, simply saying "because they are of the same gender" isn't an answer. Smiley: lol

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 2:45pm by Dozer
#266 Jan 20 2010 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
Ehcks,

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What part of being physically and emotionally attracted to a person of the same gender is unhealthy?


I'm sure i've gone over this somewhere in this thread.

You can be physically and emotionally attracted to someone that is unhealthy for you.


Of course, but that doesn't answer the question. You were asked specifically what about the attraction is unhealthy.

edit: and before we run this in a circle, simply saying "because they are of the same gender" isn't an answer. Smiley: lol

Edited, Jan 20th 2010 2:45pm by Dozer


Varus wrote:
Because all homosexual activity results in a higher chance of getting STDS.


#267 Jan 20 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Varus wrote:
Because all homosexual unprotected sexual activity results in a higher chance of getting STDS.


I thought we already covered this one.

People do realize that the homosexual community isn't the leading social group in HIV infections now, right? I picked HIV since most people erroneously consider it a "gay" disease.
#268 Jan 20 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
Ehcks,

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What part of being physically and emotionally attracted to a person of the same gender is unhealthy?


I'm sure i've gone over this somewhere in this thread.

You can be physically and emotionally attracted to someone that is unhealthy for you.


That wasn't an answer.

I'll probably forget about this thread for a few hundred posts, so I'll just jump to my point. If you want to claim that **** sex is unhealthy, first you have to remember that heterosexual couples do it too. Second, lesbian couples can't biologically do it at all. Third, condoms.

And finally, it's not even an automatic outcome of a male-male homosexual relationship. Homosexuality is not unhealthy, unprotected sex with multiple strangers is. You're insulting a LOT of people trying to equate the two.
#269 Jan 20 2010 at 3:30 PM Rating: Good
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Nadenu Delivers on Time wrote:
Because 2 gay men having sex with only each other will somehow infect us all with AIDS.
Of course, if it's good sex.
#270REDACTED, Posted: Jan 20 2010 at 3:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ehcks,
#271 Jan 20 2010 at 4:00 PM Rating: Good
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Varus isn't promiscuous by choice, guys
#272 Jan 20 2010 at 4:07 PM Rating: Excellent
publiusvarus wrote:
The two aren't mutually exclusive. And don't sell me that bs line if homosexuals were allowed to marry they wouldn't live such a promiscuous/sinful lifestyle. They live that way because that's how they want to live. Not only that but they want to act that way right in the faces of everyone else and have them accept it.


This is fucking hilarious coming from you, who try to convince us all about how much booty you get on a regular basis, you fucking hypocrite.

I can't believe you then have the audacity to bring Christianity into it, as if you were some pious innocent instead of one of the sinful that you hate so very, very much.

You sicken me sometimes, Varus.
#273 Jan 20 2010 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
The two aren't mutually exclusive. And don't sell me that bs line if homosexuals were allowed to marry they wouldn't live such a promiscuous/sinful lifestyle. They live that way because that's how they want to live. Not only that but they want to act that way right in the faces of everyone else and have them accept it.


This is fucking hilarious coming from you, who try to convince us all about how much booty you get on a regular basis, you fucking hypocrite.

I can't believe you then have the audacity to bring Christianity into it, as if you were some pious innocent instead of one of the sinful that you hate so very, very much.

You sicken me sometimes, Varus.
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#274 Jan 20 2010 at 4:23 PM Rating: Decent
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publiusvarus wrote:
Ehcks,

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Homosexuality is not unhealthy, unprotected sex with multiple strangers is.


The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Just like how heterosexuality and unprotected sex aren't mutually exclusive either, you stupid fuckwit.
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#275 Jan 20 2010 at 4:23 PM Rating: Good
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publiusvarus wrote:
H*ll as much as this may p*ss some of you off katrina destroyed new olreans, which was a bastion of carnal wickedness. And now this earthquake in Haiti has destroyed another haven for sin.


Pat, is dat u? Smiley: tinfoilhat


#276 Jan 20 2010 at 4:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Master Dozer wrote:
publiusvarus wrote:
H*ll as much as this may p*ss some of you off katrina destroyed new olreans, which was a bastion of carnal wickedness. And now this earthquake in Haiti has destroyed another haven for sin.


Pat, is dat u? Smiley: tinfoilhat




Now, you KNOW natural disasters only strike sinful areas. Houston, Miami, the Great Plains.

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