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#1 Jan 25 2010 at 3:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Is the term "Actress" sexist?
No, it just denotes gender:34 (85.0%)
Yes, but male and female acting performances should still be judged separately:3 (7.5%)
Yes, and male and female acting performances should be under a single "Acting" category:3 (7.5%)
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#2 Jan 25 2010 at 3:12 PM Rating: Decent
I'm going to assume since you bring it up that you've heard it mentioned somewhere else and merely wanted more input on the subject. Otherwise, quit coming up with new **** for people get their panties in a bunch (yeah) about. Smiley: mad
#3 Jan 25 2010 at 3:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I refer to both sexes as "actors" in general usage, but in the context of awards I think it's fair to separate the categories.

Like it or not, Hollywood roles are very different for men and women. Much more so than on stage, I think, although that seems counterintuitive.

It's an interesting question.
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#4 Jan 25 2010 at 3:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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I hear it now and then when Flea is watching the entertainment shows. "Actor Jessica Lange was on hand to tell us about..."

Example:
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Drew Barrymore looks lovely as she accepts the award for Outstanding Performance by a Female Actor in a Television Movie or Miniseries.The 34-year-old actress, who won for her work in Grey Gardens, wore a beautiful custom Monique Lhullier gown and shoes by Ferragamo.


Personally, I think it's dumb and that if it's THAT important to say there's no differences then don't have separate categories for them. If there is a difference, then stop sweating the semantics when someone uses less breath to say "actress" instead of the clumsy sounding "female actor".

Edited, Jan 25th 2010 3:20pm by Jophiel
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#5 Jan 25 2010 at 3:36 PM Rating: Good
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Meh. Someone probably got upset when the term "actress" was used so now it's as gender neutral as possible.
#6 Jan 25 2010 at 3:41 PM Rating: Good
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Uh oh, the entire Spanish language is in trouble. Smiley: lol

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A few examples: A zorro (when referring to a human) is a clever man, but a zorra is a ****. A golfo (again, when referring to a human) is a rascal, but a golfa is a ****. An hombre público is a man who does important things for the public, but a mujer pública is ... you guessed it.





#7 Jan 25 2010 at 3:46 PM Rating: Good
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The fUck?

Dog vs *****?

Fox vs vixen?

Your point Maricon?

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#8 Jan 25 2010 at 3:51 PM Rating: Good
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I don't have any specific feeling about the word "actress" but I don't really care if "female actor" is used either. If I had to guess, based on the whole dynamics of Hollywood, the problems with the term have more to do with women in Hollywood feeling disrespected and held in lesser regard.
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#9 Jan 25 2010 at 4:05 PM Rating: Good
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The word actress is sexist, just like the word female. The proper term to use is not-male actor.
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#10 Jan 25 2010 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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Nobby wrote:
The fUck?

Dog vs *****?

Fox vs vixen?

Your point Maricon?



The fUck? None of those words mean dog. Stop using an online translator.

The point is that the female version of the words are used to denote a derogatory term while the male versions are not. You'd never call a man a zorro and expect it to be derogatory. But you call a female a zorra and see what happens. Same with 'mujer pública'. Masculine version is fine - feminine version, not so much.
#11 Jan 25 2010 at 4:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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Stop using an online translator.


Yeah, Nobby. We are sick and tired of your lack of understanding of simple language. Smiley: mad

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#12 Jan 25 2010 at 4:28 PM Rating: Excellent
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Master Dozer wrote:
None of those words mean dog. Stop using an online translator.


[BringBackLargeText]WHOOSH![/BringBackLargeText]

Your point that gender in Spanish changes words from complimentary (masculine) to derogatory (feminine) is one made by Aeschylus, Descartes, Von Goethe and Churchill.

It has always applied to all languages, proving you to be a fUcking moron.

And FYI, I rarely need to resort to dictionaries for about 6 languages - your posts being the exception.
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Nobby wrote:
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None of those words mean dog. Stop using an online translator.


[BringBackLargeText]WHOOSH![/BringBackLargeText]

Your point that gender in Spanish changes words from complimentary (masculine) to derogatory (feminine) is one made by Aeschylus, Descartes, Von Goethe and Churchill.

It has always applied to all languages, proving you to be a fUcking moron.

And FYI, I rarely need to resort to dictionaries for about 6 languages - your posts being the exception.


Maybe when you translate the words properly, I'll actually believe you, dipshit.

I love posting with Nobby - so melodramatic.
#14 Jan 25 2010 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
That's not what he was doing you FUCKING imbecile.
#15 Jan 25 2010 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
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Maybe when you translate the words properly, I'll actually believe you, dipshit.


You cited Zorro/a and I referenced Fox/Vixen.

I also tossed in Dog/*****.

I could have referenced Bull/Cow, Ram/sheep. I didn't bother.

Now, my little bubble-head. What gems of intellect will convince me that you're not just regurgitating the spew of National Enquirer and have an original thought of your own.

I'm patient, but not optimistic.
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#16 Jan 25 2010 at 4:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nobby wrote:
Ram/sheep


I'm not sure this one is valid, Nobs. After all, "fUCk ewe" is a common put down.

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#17 Jan 25 2010 at 4:53 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure this one is valid, Nobs. After all, "fUCk ewe" is a common put down.

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That's not what he was doing you FUCKING imbecile.


I know what he was doing, assface.

The thread was talking about words being sexist, and it has been argued that gender nouns are sexist.

edit: I should rephrase that; not the user of gender nouns themselves, but the use of them as slang.



Edited, Jan 25th 2010 5:57pm by Dozer
#19 Jan 25 2010 at 4:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's not what he was doing you FUCKING imbecile.


I know what he was doing, assface.

The thread was talking about words being sexist, and it has been argued that gender nouns are sexist, but I missed the point, threw in some racist anti-latino propaganda, oblivious to the rich heritage of gender/insult jokes for 3 millennia, then got all defensive.

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#20 Jan 25 2010 at 4:59 PM Rating: Good
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Most professions are of equal value and consideration regardless of gender. In many cases it's easier and more proper to refer to them with a gender neutral term (police officer, mail carrier, server, etc). Besides many of these professions actually had 'man' in the title at one time - so it's just plain incorrect to use them for a female. Honestly, waiter or waitress makes no difference to me, but server is just as easy.

If they are going to give separate awards based on gender however, there is no reason not to call an actress as such. To continually have to write or say 'female actor' or 'male actor' is just silly when it could much more easily be done with a single descriptive word.

I've sort of recently wondered if I say "hi guys" to a group of mixed-gender people does the greeting include everyone?

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#21 Jan 25 2010 at 5:10 PM Rating: Good
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I've sort of recently wondered if I say "hi guys" to a group of mixed-gender people does the greeting include everyone?


I moved to Tennessee from Michigan when I was ten years old. I used to always walk up to my friends and say, "Hey, guys!" Then some of the girls started getting snippy, saying, "We aren't guys," and rolling her eyes at me.

I think that's when I picked up the Southern, "Y'all." Peer pressure. Smiley: frown
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Elinda wrote:
I've sort of recently wondered if I say "hi guys" to a group of mixed-gender people does the greeting include everyone?


I moved to Tennessee from Michigan when I was ten years old. I used to always walk up to my friends and say, "Hey, guys!" Then some of the girls started getting snippy, saying, "We aren't guys," and rolling her eyes at me.

I think that's when I picked up the Southern, "Y'all." Peer pressure. Smiley: frown
I don't remember the last time I've said "y'all."
#23 Jan 25 2010 at 5:14 PM Rating: Good
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I've sort of recently wondered if I say "hi guys" to a group of mixed-gender people does the greeting include everyone?


I moved to Tennessee from Michigan when I was ten years old. I used to always walk up to my friends and say, "Hey, guys!" Then some of the girls started getting snippy, saying, "We aren't guys," and rolling her eyes at me.

I think that's when I picked up the Southern, "Y'all." Peer pressure. Smiley: frown
I don't remember the last time I've said "y'all."


You know, I think I've actually moved away from it a bit, too.

And I called my drink a pop the other day, which left me pleasantly surprised, even if my husband did look at me a little funny.
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That's not what he was doing you FUCKING imbecile.


I know what he was doing, assface.

The thread was talking about words being sexist, and it has been argued that gender nouns are sexist, but I missed the point, threw in some racist anti-latino propaganda, oblivious to the rich heritage of gender/insult jokes for 3 millennia, then got all defensive.

Te oigo chaval. Te oigo


It is actually my lust for your overly dramatic posts. That, and playing with breaking the filter.
#25 Jan 25 2010 at 5:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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Whatevuh.

You just sound like a whiny ***** who claimed an original joke that most of us have heard for a long time before your who-mo dropped you from her over-used snatch.
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#26 Jan 25 2010 at 5:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's he-*****, dammit. Smiley: mad

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