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#77 Feb 17 2010 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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Xsaurus, would you lie to save your own life?
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#78 Feb 17 2010 at 12:24 PM Rating: Excellent
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You wouldn't lie to save a life? The strongest words in the English language, watered down as they are by overuse, cannot describe the extent to which you disgust me.
You know what's quite sad? How easily and often you're disgusted. What's disgusting is your assumption that everyone needs to have the same values as you.
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#79 Feb 17 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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I don't see how Scientology is any different from Catholicism. Both bow to a centralised body that has done and continues to do awful things, both have had heads that admit it's all bullsh*t, both have absurd beliefs about reality... the similarities are endless.

No offence, Joph.

Edited, Feb 17th 2010 6:02pm by Kavekk
Catholics will tell you all about Catholicism without you having to take out loans.


Well, the Church does appropriate funds for the wealth of those in its upper tiers, but it is a voluntary donation, so I guess it's different.
#80 Feb 17 2010 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
I don't see how Scientology is any different from Catholicism. Both bow to a centralised body that has done and continues to do awful things, both have had heads that admit it's all bullsh*t, both have absurd beliefs about reality... the similarities are endless.

No offence, Joph.

Edited, Feb 17th 2010 6:02pm by Kavekk
Catholics will tell you all about Catholicism without you having to take out loans.


Well, the Church does appropriate funds for the wealth of those in its upper tiers, but it is a voluntary donation, so I guess it's different.


Both are voluntary. You just end up in different hell equivalencies if you don't.
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#81 Feb 17 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Call it "hell equity", say.

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#82 Feb 17 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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Timelordwho wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
I don't see how Scientology is any different from Catholicism. Both bow to a centralised body that has done and continues to do awful things, both have had heads that admit it's all bullsh*t, both have absurd beliefs about reality... the similarities are endless.

No offence, Joph.

Edited, Feb 17th 2010 6:02pm by Kavekk
Catholics will tell you all about Catholicism without you having to take out loans.


Well, the Church does appropriate funds for the wealth of those in its upper tiers, but it is a voluntary donation, so I guess it's different.


Both are voluntary. You just end up in different hell equivalencies if you don't.
I don't remember being told I'd go to hell for not donating to the church during my stint with Catholicism.

Not exactly fond of either, but Catholicism doesn't have billion-year contracts where you sign your life away to be on some weird private navy.
#83 Feb 17 2010 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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Sweetums wrote:
Timelordwho wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
Sweetums wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
I don't see how Scientology is any different from Catholicism. Both bow to a centralised body that has done and continues to do awful things, both have had heads that admit it's all bullsh*t, both have absurd beliefs about reality... the similarities are endless.

No offence, Joph.

Edited, Feb 17th 2010 6:02pm by Kavekk
Catholics will tell you all about Catholicism without you having to take out loans.


Well, the Church does appropriate funds for the wealth of those in its upper tiers, but it is a voluntary donation, so I guess it's different.


Both are voluntary. You just end up in different hell equivalencies if you don't.
I don't remember being told I'd go to hell for not donating to the church during my stint with Catholicism.

Not exactly fond of either, but Catholicism doesn't have billion-year contracts where you sign your life away to be on some weird private navy.


I thought giving your immortal soul to Jesus was a longer contract than a billion years.

That, and the 5% tithe was typically prescribed as the amount to be given for salvation. Not in more moderate modern congregations, to be sure. And heck, Indulgences are analogous to Auditing in function if not form.
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#84 Feb 17 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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Yea, but you're also not on a private Jesus slave boat for the rest of your natural life.

In the past, there were indulgences and compulsory tithes, but I only really care about the similarities in the context of modern times. Catholicism may be goofy sky fairy stories, but at least there's the excuse of them being culturally prescribed. Scientologist celebrities believe plane-rocket stories without any childhood interference.
#85 Feb 17 2010 at 1:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
I don't see how Scientology is any different from Catholicism. Both bow to a centralised body that has done and continues to do awful things, both have had heads that admit it's all bullsh*t, both have absurd beliefs about reality... the similarities are endless.

No offence, Joph.

None taken. I disagree but I can't see the value in getting into it.
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#86 Feb 17 2010 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
Jophiel wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
I don't see how Scientology is any different from Catholicism. Both bow to a centralised body that has done and continues to do awful things, both have had heads that admit it's all bullsh*t, both have absurd beliefs about reality... the similarities are endless.

No offence, Joph.

None taken. I disagree but I can't see the value in getting into it.


You never can.

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#87 Feb 17 2010 at 1:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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You never can.

It's amazing how rarely I leave a discussion on religion and think "Well, that certainly was fruitful..." Smiley: smile
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#88 Feb 17 2010 at 2:13 PM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
Kavekk the Ludicrous wrote:
You never can.

It's amazing how rarely I leave a discussion on religion and think "Well, that certainly was fruitful..." Smiley: smile


If you were seeking fruitful discussions you wouldn't debate politics, neh?
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#89 Feb 17 2010 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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I don't mind discussing religion if we set up some ground rules:
1. Preaching is just as bad as lambasting believers.
2. Mormons are straight crazy.
3. The Amish make the best pies.
#90 Feb 17 2010 at 2:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Timelordwho wrote:
If you were seeking fruitful discussions you wouldn't debate politics, neh?

I disagree but I can't see the value in getting into it. Smiley: grin
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Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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