Follow-up: lesbian high schooler's promFollow

Just as she's perfectly free to marry anyone she chooses, as long as they have a *****.

Irrelevant to this issue. There are a host of things in our society that take note of someone's sex. Can we please not lump them all into one incredibly simplistic argument? She's free to use a public restroom, as long as it's the women's restroom, right? Do we start talking about womens' soccer leagues next? Maybe complain that bars offer ladies night? How about we look just as the issue in front of us and not insist on painting it into a larger context?

I was inspired by your echo, actually.

Sweet,



Like i'd be caught at a high school dance. When I was in school we partied on the beach like normal teenagers.

Yes.



I agree. You, on the other hand, seem to think we should all just follow the rules put in place like good little sheep and not rile anyone up.

You're lying. Sorry. There's just no nice way to say it.



There is a huge range between "blindly following the rules because they are the rules", and "ignore any rule you don't like". Can we agree on that? I'm not saying you must follow all rules, but that there is a process for changing them that should be respected. She choose not to do that and/or choose to refuse to abide by the result. She did so out of sheer selfishness and a sense that because she's a lesbian the rules should not apply to her.


When did "riling people up" become an acceptable way to create change? When did people just assume that because someone choose the path of "riling people up", that the cause they are pursuing must be just? That's the kind of assumption I am taking issue with here. It's a freaking prom run by a school. It's not like she's fighting a grand cause against the Gestapo or something. It's a school board issue at best. But somehow this gets turned into an issue of rights? You don't have a right to attend an event dressed however you want. You do not have a right to buy tickets to an event if you refuse to follow the rules for buying said tickets.

No amount of being a lesbian changes that. Or it shouldn't...

You're an idiot. Sorry. There's just no nice way to say it.


Edited, Mar 24th 2010 8:01pm by Uglysasquatch

You have to understand. Since Gbaji is a hypocrite who constantly changes his opinions and reactions to support his ideology, he assumes everyone else is also a hypocrite who changes their opinions and reactions on a whim to match an ideology.

No, it really is. Many of your arguments revolve around you using some imaginary world to make a point ("But you KNOW if he said X, you'd say Y! It's true and you know it!") and I can only assume it's because since your own values and reactions are so prone to shift on an ideological breeze that you just innately believe that everyone else shares your faults.


Exhibit A

On a side note, I hear she got a 30k scholarship from Ellen Degeneress, so she didn't make out all that bad.

I'll stipulate that the relevant issue is that she's a lesbian. Okay, that's the relevant point.

Oddly, it doesn't weaken the argument at all. In fact it strengthens it, because she wanted to bring her girlfriend to the prom. It's kind of a date night, if you recall. Not exclusively couples, but mainly couples, there being recognized as couples, arriving together, dressing in tacky but complementary outfits, blah blah. That's what it's about. She has a constitutionally protected right to express herself, even if it makes the vice principal at East Jesus High School feel all funny in his righteous parts.

And hey, looky here, the court agrees with me.

Huh. I'm sure that judge doesn't know the law, though. Not really. Not the way you do.