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#1 May 13 2010 at 12:01 PM Rating: Decent
This is what public schools are like in major urban centers;

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhh2982fJ2J9gdrV1O



Anyone doubt this "teacher" is an Obama supporter?



Edited, May 13th 2010 2:14pm by knoxxsouthy
#2 May 13 2010 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
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What evidence is there to suggest she is an Obama supporter?

Oh, she's black, and she's a teacher. Brilliant deductive work there.
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#3 May 13 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Good
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knoxxsouthy wrote:




Anyone doubt this "teacher" is any Obama supporter?
Do you have a point you're trying to make?
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#4 May 13 2010 at 12:14 PM Rating: Excellent
Debalic wrote:
What evidence is there to suggest she is an Obama supporter?


Anyone who does anything that Varus doesn't like must needs be a member of the Democratic party, a liberal, and a homosexual.
#5 May 13 2010 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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Anyone who does anything that Varus doesn't like must needs be a member of the Democratic party, a liberal, and a homosexual.

If you're a woman, you just say "bull ****".

Edited, May 13th 2010 1:18pm by Jophiel
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#6 May 13 2010 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
Hum, so a teacher smacks the crap out of a student? Maybe the kid deserved it? What does that have to do with Obama?
#7 May 13 2010 at 12:18 PM Rating: Decent
Hum, so a teacher smacks the crap out of a student? Maybe the kid deserved it? What does that have to do with Obama?
#8 May 13 2010 at 12:19 PM Rating: Good
Glad she's fired, but aren't cell phones forbidden in classrooms?
#9 May 13 2010 at 12:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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If parents are dissatisfied with public schools then they should send their children to private school.
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#10 May 13 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Debalic wrote:
What evidence is there to suggest she is an Obama supporter?


Anyone who does anything that Varus doesn't like must needs be a member of the Democratic party, a liberal, and a homosexual.
What makes you think Varus doesn't like what this woman is doing? I'm thinking that if a 13 year old black boy was picking on some white girl, and a white woman intervened with an ***-whooping to the boy, Varus would 'like' that more than we care to know.

It's simply that these are black people behaving badly, and our president is black, and somehow in the tangled mis-connected synapses of Varus's mind, these things are related.
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#11 May 13 2010 at 12:25 PM Rating: Good
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If parents are dissatisfied with public schools then they should send their children to private school.
Private Catholic Schools, led by friendly nurturing priests.
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#12 May 13 2010 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Debalic wrote:
What evidence is there to suggest she is an Obama supporter?


Anyone who does anything that Varus doesn't like must needs be a member of the Democratic party, a liberal, and a homosexual.
What makes you think Varus doesn't like what this woman is doing?


The fact that he said the teacher must be an Obama supporter.
#13 May 13 2010 at 12:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Apparently this teacher wasn't certified but still employed because Texas doesn't require charter school teachers to have any certification.

Way to go, Texas educational system!



See how I turned that around?
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#14 May 13 2010 at 12:30 PM Rating: Decent
Tulip,

Who said I didn't like it? I wish teachers had more freedom to beat the sh*t out of these f*cked up children. Spare the rod spoil the child I say.



Actually the reason I started this thread was to rail on urban public schools.

Edited, May 13th 2010 2:32pm by knoxxsouthy
#15 May 13 2010 at 12:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Tulip,

Who said I didn't like it? I wish teachers had the freedom to beat the sh*t out of these f*cked up children. Spare the rod spoil the child I say.



Actually the reason I started this thread was to rail on urban public schools.


If you like what the teacher did, then how would it be a rail on urban public schools...?

Edited, May 13th 2010 1:32pm by Belkira
#16 May 13 2010 at 12:38 PM Rating: Good
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Said it before and I'll say it again; public schools vary all around the country. In MA I got a great education, aced all my AP tests, and entered an honors program in college as a sophomore (credit-wise). 92% of my graduating class went on to higher education, 2% went into the clergy or military, and 6% entered the work force. Despite being the school with the third lowest state funding in all of MA, we consistently had some of the highest SAT and AP scores (MCAS as well, but those we all agreed were idiotic products of "No Child Left Behind"). In my Calculus AB class we had graphs of scores; out of a class of 24, only 2 people did not get a 3 or higher (aka, did not pass), and 18 of us got 4s or 5s.

When I was at college in DE I worked for the landscaping crew during a summer and chatted with some of the "townies." In DE, about 55% of the students in the local public high school graduated and went to college; 45% went to the work force. AP grades were considered great if you got 3s; passing wasn't rare, but getting higher than a 3 was.

In FL, public schools are pretty darn bad. The students truly interested in college don't attend many classes their senior year, instead they have a dual-enrollment program that allows them to take classes for college credit at nearby community colleges. They also have AP tests, but despite a full year of study passing still seems like a crap shoot. On the plus side, those that do well get a very generous scholarship to the in-state colleges; the scholarship can be offered, however, because so few students end up doing well.


Nothing much to do with the OP, just the title. Point being I still have a hard time thinking of public schools as bad due to my childhood.

Edit: All of these locations were suburban to an extent. In MA I was in a suburb of Boston, Newark, DE is a city unto itself due to the University but has Wilmington and Philadelphia relatively close, and Ocala, FL is practically rural. Ocala is horse country. county country.

Edited, May 13th 2010 2:42pm by LockeColeMA
#17 May 13 2010 at 12:40 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Tulip,

Who said I didn't like it? I wish teachers had the freedom to beat the sh*t out of these f*cked up children. Spare the rod spoil the child I say.



Actually the reason I started this thread was to rail on urban public schools.


If you like what the teacher did, then how would it be a rail on urban public schools...?

Edited, May 13th 2010 1:32pm by Belkira
I think it's that the kids in urban public schools have cell phones that take videos.

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#18 May 13 2010 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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LockeColeMA wrote:
Said it before and I'll say it again; public schools vary all around the country. In MA I got a great education, aced all my AP tests, and entered an honors program in college as a sophomore (credit-wise). 92% of my graduating class went on to higher education, 2% went into the clergy or military, and 6% entered the work force. Despite being the school with the third lowest state funding in all of MA, we consistently had some of the highest SAT and AP scores (MCAS as well, but those we all agreed were idiotic products of "No Child Left Behind"). In my Calculus AB class we had graphs of scores; out of a class of 24, only 2 people did not get a 3 or higher (aka, did not pass), and 18 of us got 4s or 5s.

When I was at college in DE I worked for the landscaping crew during a summer and chatted with some of the "townies." In DE, about 55% of the students in the local public high school graduated and went to college; 45% went to the work force. AP grades were considered great if you got 3s; passing wasn't rare, but getting higher than a 3 was.

In FL, public schools are pretty darn bad. The students truly interested in college don't attend many classes their senior year, instead they have a dual-enrollment program that allows them to take classes for college credit at nearby community colleges. They also have AP tests, but despite a full year of study passing still seems like a crap shoot. On the plus side, those that do well get a very generous scholarship to the in-state colleges; the scholarship can be offered, however, because so few students end up doing well.


Nothing much to do with the OP, just the title. Point being I still have a hard time thinking of public schools as bad due to my childhood.
Public schools are financially supported by their town or perhaps county. The quality will vary considerably even within a state. Maine has some of the best public schools and some of the worst.
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Public schools are financially supported by their town or perhaps county. The quality will vary considerably even within a state. Maine has some of the best public schools and some of the worst.


That's very true as well. Most of Cape Cod was upper-middle class, in property value if not income. That was actually part of the issue; as said, we were the third-lowest in per student funding out of the entire state, and that was based on property value. But most of the people who owned property on the Cape got it years ago when the housing market was in a slump; its value just skyrocketed. Consequently most of my classmates were not "rich." It just so happened that a house worth $150,000 in 1990 was worth $500,000 by 2000 (and only $300,000 by 2006, incidentally).

It became a big problem also because people who bought property AFTER the slump were primarily old and rich; but they refused to pay for things not directly benefiting them, instead using the town council to constantly lower funding for schools and public works (they would also complain about the lack of snowplows every winter, which was ironic). Thus, programs were cut from the school, sports teams shut down, etc. When I was in elementary school, the high school had a marching band that won the state competition. By the time I got to high school it had been entirely disbanded (heh, pun). When my sister, two years younger than me, graduated, they were debating cutting AP classes, shortening the week to 4 days, or charging $100 fees to join teams or AP classes (above the fee to take the test... $65, I think?). Combined with the extra cost of implementing Bush's "No Child Left Behind" program, our school suffered badly.

Still, it managed to do pretty well overall, at least while I was there. No idea what it's like 6 years after I graduated.
#20 May 13 2010 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Our public schools are pretty awesome.
#21 May 13 2010 at 1:05 PM Rating: Good
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
knoxxsouthy wrote:
Tulip,

Who said I didn't like it? I wish teachers had the freedom to beat the sh*t out of these f*cked up children. Spare the rod spoil the child I say.



Actually the reason I started this thread was to rail on urban public schools.


If you like what the teacher did, then how would it be a rail on urban public schools...?

Edited, May 13th 2010 1:32pm by Belkira
I think it's that the kids in urban public schools have cell phones that take videos.


It could be. I just assume that when someone puts the word teacher in quotes, that's the one they have the problem with.
#22 May 13 2010 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
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I have a problem with everything. But that's me.

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Maybe the kid deserved it?


Are you as fucking stupid in real life as you are here?
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#24 May 13 2010 at 1:53 PM Rating: Decent
A) A charter school is slightly different than a public school.
B) The teacher in question was wrong, got fired. End of story.

I'm not sure there's even a discussion to be had here other than to say "That's ****** up."
#25 May 13 2010 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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The teacher in question was wrong, got fired. End of story.


She should have been prosecuted for assault at least.
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#26 May 13 2010 at 3:01 PM Rating: Decent
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The teacher in question was wrong, got fired. End of story.

She should have been prosecuted for assault at least.

I'm no legal expert, but I'd assume that's up to the family of the child, not the school, to pursue.

Edited, May 13th 2010 4:01pm by BrownDuck
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