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#1 May 18 2010 at 7:25 PM Rating: Default
Three cheers for Arizona

The shoe is on the other foot and the Mexicans from the State of Sonora, Mexico doesn't like it. Can you believe the nerve of these people? It's almost funny.

The State of Sonora is angry at the influx of Mexicans into Mexico . Nine state legislators from the Mexican State of Sonora traveled to Tucson to complain about Arizona 's new employer crackdown on illegals from Mexico .

It seems that many Mexican illegals are returning to their hometowns and the officials in the Sonora state government are ticked off.

A delegation of nine state legislators from Sonora was in Tucson on Tuesday to state that Arizona 's new Employer Sanctions Law will have a devastating effect on the Mexican state.

At a news conference, the legislators said that Sonora, - Arizona's southern neighbor, - made up of mostly small towns, - cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools that it will face as Mexican workers return to their hometowns from the USA without jobs or money.

The Arizona law, which took effect Jan. 1, punishes Arizona employers who knowingly hire individuals without valid legal documents to work in the United States. Penalties include suspension of, or loss of, their business license.

The Mexican legislators are angry because their own citizens are returning to their hometowns, placing a burden on THEIR state government. 'How can Arizona pass a law like this?' asked Mexican Rep Leticia Amparano-Gamez,
who represents Nogales .

'There is not one person living in Sonora who does not have a friend or relative working in Arizona ,' she said, speaking in Spanish. 'Mexico is not prepared for this, for the tremendous problems it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and who were sending money to their families return to their home-towns in Sonora without jobs,' she said. 'We
are one family, socially and economically,' she said of the people of Sonora and Arizona .

New Immigration Laws: Read to the bottom or you will miss the message...

1. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools.
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2. All ballots will be in this nation's language.
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3.. All government business will be conducted in our language.
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4. Non-residents will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they are here.
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5. Non-citizens will NEVER be able to hold political office
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6 Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no food stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs. Any burden will be deported.
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7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount at least equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.
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8. If foreigners come here and buy land... options will be restricted. Certain parcels including waterfront property are reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.
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9. Foreigners may have no protests; no demonstrations, no waving of a foreign flag, no political organizing, no bad-mouthing our president or his policies. These will lead to deportation.
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10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be actively hunted and when caught, sent to jail until your deportation can be arranged. All assets will be taken from you.
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Too strict? The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO!
#2 May 18 2010 at 7:33 PM Rating: Excellent
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Too strict? The above laws are current immigration laws of MEXICO!

And? Was there some group of people I didn't know about saying that Mexico was the Gold Standard of just and fair laws?

Hey, North Korea has some pretty draconian laws about immigration, politics and foreigners. Isn't that awesome?? We should be just like North Korea! LOLOLOLCOPTERS!!
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#3 May 18 2010 at 7:38 PM Rating: Good
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#4 May 18 2010 at 8:04 PM Rating: Good
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#6 May 18 2010 at 8:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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#7 May 18 2010 at 8:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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It's considered good manners to cite source material when you copy and paste it.

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#8 May 18 2010 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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It's Tailmon, do you really expect anything but complete failure?
#9 May 18 2010 at 8:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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#10ThiefX, Posted: May 18 2010 at 9:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is why arguing with liberals is fun. When they start losing they go off on some idiotic non-issue point in hopes that nobody will notice they don't have an answer.
#11 May 18 2010 at 9:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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Arguing against what? There's nothing to argue against here. Tailmon didn't post anything to provoke any kind of thought. You can't argue against someone who doesn't make any points.
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Who's losing?

I haven't had explained to me yet why Mexico is considered the Gold Standard of just and fair immigration laws or why we should look to their policies as something to emulate. I always thought the whole idea of immigration was that we're a better nation than the ones the huddled masses leave behind.
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#13 May 18 2010 at 10:18 PM Rating: Default
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Who's losing?

I haven't had explained to me yet why Mexico is considered the Gold Standard of just and fair immigration laws or why we should look to their policies as something to emulate. I always thought the whole idea of immigration was that we're a better nation than the ones the huddled masses leave behind.


Nobody is claiming that they are the Gold Standard of immigration reform.

The point of bringing up Mexico's own immigration policy is to point out the extreme hypocrisy of the Mexican government that actually encourages and instructs their citizens to enter the U.S. illegally.

The point of bringing it up is to point out the immigrants who enter this country illegally and influence this countries policies, school systems, medical and tax payer services all while waving their countries flag, refusing to assimilate and demanding the same services and treatment of American citizens.
#14 May 18 2010 at 10:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nobody is claiming that they are the Gold Standard of immigration reform.

The point of bringing up Mexico's own immigration policy is to point out the extreme hypocrisy of the Mexican government that actually encourages and instructs their citizens to enter the U.S. illegally.

So you're saying.... Mexico sucks? The Mexican government is bad? Again, isn't that why people come here? How is this an argument for anything?

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refusing to assimilate and demanding the same services and treatment of American citizens.

They're assimilating over generations, just like every previous immigrant wave has done.
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#15 May 18 2010 at 10:44 PM Rating: Good
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The point of bringing up Mexico's own immigration policy is to point out the extreme hypocrisy of the Mexican government that actually encourages and instructs their citizens to enter the U.S. illegally.


It would only be hypocritical if Mexico had an illegal immigrant problem & America had Mexico's immigration policies. Since they don't, it's not hypocritical.

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The point of bringing it up is...


This is where you should have mentioned the point of bringing up...something.

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...to point out the immigrants who enter this country illegally and influence this countries policies, school systems, medical and tax payer services all while waving their countries flag, refusing to assimilate and demanding the same services and treatment of American citizens.


But you NEVER pointed out any immigrants. So WHAT IS THE POINT?!?!!!

So I conclude that like most Tailmon threads, there is no point. Which is perhaps, the point you were trying to make.


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#16 May 18 2010 at 10:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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While having lurked long enough to realize that it is indeed true that tailmon threads are largely pointless, you were quoting thiefx, not tailmon :P Although I can see how you can get them mixed up.
#17 May 18 2010 at 11:06 PM Rating: Default
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It would only be hypocritical if Mexico had an illegal immigrant problem & America had Mexico's immigration policies. Since they don't, it's not hypocritical.


I know this may be difficult for you to understand you're still trying to figure out why that brilliant and well thought out economic policy of "That person has more lets take it for them" never seems to work but try to follow along.

It is hypocritical because the Mexican government has for decades actually lectured the U.S on immigration (even held elections on U.S soil)and American presidents and politicians on the U.S immigration policy all while encouraging their own people to enter this country illegally.

Oh and.......

Maybe they don't have a illegal immigration problem because they enforce their immigration laws unlike the U.S. (I seriously doubt this one)

Or maybe they don't have an illegal immigration problem because Mexico is a giant **** hole full of corrupt politicians who have gotten rich by out sourcing their uneducated unskilled people to the U.S and having those same people send back U.S dollars that accounts for a large part of the Mexican economy. (This is more likely)





#18 May 19 2010 at 12:04 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually, Mexico does have an immigration problem along their southern border. Namely Guatamala and Honduras. As much as Mexico might suck, the Central American nations to the south of it suck worse.
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#19 May 19 2010 at 1:14 AM Rating: Good
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#20 May 19 2010 at 1:34 AM Rating: Good
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It is hypocritical because the Mexican government has for decades actually lectured the U.S on immigration (even held elections on U.S soil)and American presidents and politicians on the U.S immigration policy all while encouraging their own people to enter this country illegally.


When has it ever been the official policy of the Mexican government to encourage it's own citizens to enter America illegally?

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While having lurked long enough to realize that it is indeed true that tailmon threads are largely pointless, you were quoting thiefx, not tailmon :P Although I can see how you can get them mixed up.


You're right. Apologies to Tailmon, it was Thiefx who was spouting retardedness.
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#21 May 19 2010 at 2:30 AM Rating: Good
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When has it ever been the official policy of the Mexican government to encourage it's own citizens to enter America illegally?


He's going to talk about the illegal immigrant survival guide they published.
#22 May 19 2010 at 6:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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It is hypocritical because the Mexican government has for decades actually lectured the U.S on immigration (even held elections on U.S soil)and American presidents and politicians on the U.S immigration policy all while encouraging their own people to enter this country illegally.


Point being? For the last two years that I've posted in the Asylum, Varus has argued about living a moral Christian life while admitting he looks for men and drunk coeds to sex up. As he so often says, you can make valid points even if you don't follow your own advice.

(Note: I didn't even read what you said, just pointing out it's funny when you cry about hypocrisy)
#23 May 19 2010 at 6:21 AM Rating: Good
We have empty houses and apartments left and right, and a need for people willing to do the crappy jobs.

They have cartels just waiting for more people to become desperate enough to run drugs and kill the rare honest politician down there.

The argument is very strong for us to start rounding up all the mexicans, putting them in a boxcar 1930's german style, and shipping them back.
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ThiefX wrote:
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It's considered good manners to cite source material when you copy and paste it.


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And in that thread is a link to an even older copy of this!



This is why arguing with liberals is fun. When they start losing they go off on some idiotic non-issue point in hopes that nobody will notice they don't have an answer.

So the post he made is copied from another (Doesn't change the fact that what is said is true)

So it's an old post. (Doesn't change the fact that what was said is true)



This is why arguing with idiots is so fun. I wasn't making any argument at all, chief, just pointing out some casual plagiarism.
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#26 May 19 2010 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
ThiefX wrote:
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It's considered good manners to cite source material when you copy and paste it.


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And in that thread is a link to an even older copy of this!



This is why arguing with liberals is fun. When they start losing they go off on some idiotic non-issue point in hopes that nobody will notice they don't have an answer.

So the post he made is copied from another (Doesn't change the fact that what is said is true)

So it's an old post. (Doesn't change the fact that what was said is true)


Hey, fuckslap, the post in question is copypasta of a chainspam email dated at least a year ago, long before the new Arizona 2010 law was even written. It's useless drivel posted by someone known for useless drivel. It's pointless and irrelevant, as is discussing the merit or truthfulness of its content.

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