gbaji wrote:
So there are no responses possible to the 9/11 attacks which cannot be labeled by you are "bigotry"? That seems simple minded.
I honestly have no idea what that means.
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No, they aren't. Can you grasp the concept that two similar things can happen for different reasons? And in this case, the only thing similar about them is that they both involve mosques.
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Which should be your first clue that the motivation for the opposition to those two mosques is... wait for it... different. They are not related, as you claimed above.
You used to attempt to sound smart. It's like you're not even trying anymore.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/22/AR2010082202895.html?hpid=topnews wrote:
MURFREESBORO, TENN. -- For more than 30 years, the Muslim community in this Nashville suburb has worshipped quietly in a variety of makeshift spaces -- a one-bedroom apartment, an office behind a Lube Express -- attracting little notice even after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
But when the community's leaders proposed a 52,900-square-foot Islamic center with a school and a swimming pool this year, the vehement backlash from their neighbors caught them by surprise. Opponents crowded county meetings and held a noisy protest in the town square that drew hundreds, some carrying signs such as "Keep Tennessee Terror Free."
So... it's almost like they don't want the Ground Zero Mosque built because of the 9/11 terrorist attacks... and people in Murfreesboro don't want the Murfreesboro Mosque built because of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
But no, that can't be right. Because gbaji says they aren't related at all.
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If you truly want to show you respect people, and want to earn their respect as well, you have to start by giving them some respect in the first place. Regardless of intent, building the mosque at that location is a bad idea.
Sure. They shouldn't build a mosque on the same site that had a mosque built on it when the terror attacks happened. That would be silly.
ETA: Maybe I'm wrong about this. I heard somewhere that this property was owned by the developers long before the attacks, is that wrong?
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You're kidding right? What they want is to be able to show their friends that 10 years after they attacked us on 9/11, the people in the US are surrendering to their version of Islam. And to prove it, they need only show a picture of the crescent moon on top of a tall mosque overshadowing the hole in the ground where the WTC used to be. And *you* are an idiot if you don't see that they don't care about the things you care about. Stop trying to judge a group of radical fundamentalist terrorists by your own standards. They certainly don't.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-talk/2010/08/report_taliban_using_mosque_co.html wrote:
Newsweek is reporting that the Taliban is using controversy over the “Ground Zero mosque†to raise money and recruit new fighters, both inside and outside Afghanistan.
It’s proved such an effective tool that “it now heads the list of talking points in Taliban meetings with fighters, villagers, and potential recruits,†the weekly says.
“By preventing this mosque from being built, America is doing us a big favor,†a Taliban operative named Zabihullah told the weekly. “It’s providing us with more recruits, donations, and popular support.â€
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my standards. This mosque is not the taliban or Al-Qaeda's version of Islam. By saying it is, you sound like varus. Congratulations.
Oh, and yes, that's pretty fu
cking bigoted to judge an entire religion on the actions of a few.
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Then it should be easy to answer. Show me the statistics of Muslims being attacked or oppressed purely because they are Muslim. I always love when people just assume something so hard that they can't even contemplate that maybe their assumption is wrong.
Honestly, I don't have statistics about Muslims being treated badly because getting yelled at, snubbed, ignored at a store, or refused service isn't really reported. But it happens. You are honestly going to sit there and pretend it doesn't? While people are vandalizing the building site for mosques, debating whether or not a mosque should be built in New York, and knifing cab drivers because they are Muslim? Are you blind...?
Edited, Sep 2nd 2010 12:05am by Belkira