Jophiel wrote:
That was a lot of words to avoid just asking the question. Go go embarrassed obfuscation!
I already explained it directly in reference to DADT, let me quote it again for you. If you don't understand that and don't want a further explanation, then politely STFU
Almalieque on Page 6 wrote:
Except that isn't the counterpart. The reasons why heterosexual men dont' want to shower with homosexual men ARE THE SAME reasons why heterosexual women don't want to shower with heterosexual men.
It's the concept not the details. If you accept one argument based on feelings x,y and z, then you must also accept the other argument based on feelings x,y and z. Like I keep saying in every SSM argument, if you argue for all, then you must accept all. Else, you must make an exclusive argument
Nadenu wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Except it is. Man looked at by Man = Woman looked at by Woman. It's still equal, it's just that this doesn't help your argument so you need to try to create new dynamics.
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Not at all and that's an exceptionally weak defense.
If a child asks his mother for a ham sandwich and she's "No, because it'll ruin your appetite for dinner", then what should be her response if he asked for a turkey sandwich and why?
So I went back and looked up where he posted this the first time. I still have no idea what this has to do with the price of tea in China.
Man looking at man = woman looking at woman is ham = turkey?
Well your lack of understanding is obviously the reason for your own confusion. I just simply asked a question and you're already making false comparisons before I was even able to respond to your answer.
Jophiel wrote:
If he can avoid explaining it, he avoids admitting how flawed it is.
I explained it first, see above in my quote.
rdmcandie wrote:
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500+ billion dollars mean absolutely nothing if you fail at discipline, team work and training. I know that you think the U.S. wins battles by simply pressing a single button, but I assure you that isn't the case.
Wins them a lot more than countries that don't have that ability, i bet a *** pushes the switch.
Let me put it another way. Every nations military has discipline and team work and training. Not many nations in the world have all the expensive toys.
actually you probably didn't understand that either, but w.e you are a Captain after all and must understand better than me how a well trained squad is the reason why China can't really be a threat, and not the billions of dollars spent on the best aircraft carrier groups in the world. Obviously it is the men not the equipment....
Edited, Oct 2nd 2011 6:11pm by rdmcandie Mr. cheap @$$ cell phone, coke bottle IED terrorist guy would like to say hello to you. I'm not denying the obvious boost from technology, but the people makes the military successful, not the equipment. You don't just effectively integrate a piece of equipment without the proper training and skill set.
RDD wrote:
oh and just to keep on topic. Are you trying to say that homosexuals are incapable of being as disciplined as hetero sexuals? Is that what this is all about? you got a poof in your outfit captain, he not taking to well to your teachins, @#%^ing queerosexuals. (that may or may not *touches nose* have been there all along.)
lol idiot.
You got that from my post and you call me an idiot? You're so confused that you're getting your own self off topic.
I countered the notion that "every other military does it" with the fact that it doesn't make sense for the "best" military (if you support that notion) to emulate an inferior military.
You countered that it has nothing to do with people but the equipment.
I countered back that training, discipline and overall team work has a major role in any group success. No where did I imply that homosexuals are incapable of that, but simply people do play a role in success, not just equipment.
Sir Xsarus wrote:
Hey this is pretty awesome, not only is Alma ignoring my post, he's pretending that it never happened. He's far gone guys. He's ignoring your questions, he's basically being exactly what he complains about in every single thread.
Edited, Oct 2nd 2011 11:39pm by Xsarus
So, I quoted where I explained to Jophiel my proposition already, now it's time for you to do the same. You don't have to, primarily because it doesn't exist. If it does, then you must not really want an answer because I at least reference my overlooked posts, i.e. see page 14.
Nilatai wrote:
Almalieque wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
Well if you don't think it will adversely affect the military shut the fuck up!
What are you talking about? Your proposition was the military collapsing, which I never implied.
Well you think less people will join because of this right? Which leads to the military collapsing. If you don't think this, why are you making such a big fu
cking deal about it?
Edited, Oct 3rd 2011 5:49am by Nilatai I don't think that and my reason on why it's a big deal is in my ginormous post on page 5.