Vegeta wrote:
Those justifications are similar. "Comfort" was another justification that was also similarly applied to both racial & sexual orientation discrimination.
So we agree. Hatred and bigotry can be used for ANY argument. You can't use those "arguments" for the legitimate justification for the discrimination. My post did not support any bigotry or hatred. Under your logic, all discrimination is the same because we can all reduce it to "hatred" and "bigotry". The actual justification for the discrimination of homosexuality did NOT include either of those, so therefore the two reasons are NOT the same.
Vegeta wrote:
What legitimate justifications? Name ONE. Brownie points if it couldn't also be applied to racial discrimination.
Post 206.
Vageta wrote:
Perhaps it's just semantics, but I've been waiting for one logical justification to discriminate by sexual orientation from you for awhile now. "Post 206" does not answer that. A complete sentence, or one filled out madlib, would.
Post 206. You're trying to put an entire post into one sentence, it can not happen. You either take the whole post as a whole or stop asking for an explanation, because that's all you will get.
Vegeta wrote:
This question was asked so you would answer &, hopefully, be able to understand the difference between (mostly) logical justifications for discrimination (gender, religion, etc.) & illogical justifications.
And you yet provided any "logical justifications" for gender, religion,etc. You responded with the same responses that you are attacking for homosexuality. For example, you say "traditional gender roles", but "traditional gender roles" do not support homosexuality. So, according to your "logical explanation" for discrimination against sex, it also supports DADT. So, do you or do you not stand by "traditional gender roles"?
You also said for religion to basically suck it up, because you should have known that before joining. I can just as easily use that same thought process against homosexuality.
Unless I overlooked it, I responded to your post refuting all of your claims and you did not reply.
Vageta wrote:
Almalieque The Great wrote:
Now you're trying to turn that around and pretend that I was trying to say it was ok because of other forms of discrimination when I explicitly said the contrary numerous of times.
Almalieque The Most Awesome, #647, as his answer to why woman whom meet the physical standard still aren't allowed to do some things wrote:
Because the military discriminates in more ways than just against homosexuals.
Smiley: dubious
And your point? That isn't a contradiction. You ask why women can't do certain things. I answered because the military discriminates. I was pointing out to you that it discriminates beyond sexuality as what you are implying. I did not say that one lead to the to other, just simply it exists.
Nice try though.