Dozer wrote:
I've lurked through a lot and I still can't really pin Alma down (not in the gay wrestler sense).
He thinks homosexuality is a "personality" trait, much like hating broccoli or being short-tempered. At least, that is how I understood it. He seems to like to classify and quantify things in odd ways. Or, at the very least, classify them in ways that most of the population would not. I think until that conundrum is resolved no one will really be able to reach him on this issue.
He thinks homosexuality is a "personality" trait, much like hating broccoli or being short-tempered. At least, that is how I understood it. He seems to like to classify and quantify things in odd ways. Or, at the very least, classify them in ways that most of the population would not. I think until that conundrum is resolved no one will really be able to reach him on this issue.
For clarification, I do not believe that your sexuality, regardless of what it is, is a physical trait because there is nothing physical about it. The only other category that I can think of is a personal trait. If you want to classify it in another category, then go for it, but it isn't a physical trait.
See, that's what you call "consistency". Your mind and body are two different "systems". Your body will be excited by anything, it's your mind that make distinctions. Therefore, your arousal during sex does not make you a particular sexual orientation. HOWEVER, if you make a constant effort to engage in those activities, then that's a pretty good indication of your sexual orientation. That doesn't occur until your MIND becomes part of that equation. Therefore, it can not possibly be a physical trait if it's based on a mental acceptance.
See, what people on this forum do is jump ships to whatever supports their argument. Belkira mentioned that the ~philia comes in when the person becomes physical with the children. However, she also argued that the sodomy laws in the military aren't contradictory by repealing DADT because your sexual orientation isn't defined by your sexual actions and not everyone is having sex. That would imply that you aren't "gay" or "straight" until you have sex. Complete contradiction.
Dozer wrote:
I also realize that reaching him really is naively optimistic.
Only if you're a close-minded ignoramus who lacks the aptitude to know when you're approaching a more perspicacious person.