Jophiel wrote:
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I don't think her diatribe connects her to the lower/middle class voters at all.
Says the guy who can have the government seize nearly $100k for unpaid taxes and it's an inconvenience rather than a life-altering even. Well, I suppose you have your finger on the pulse of middle America.
That they're more concerned by the government taking (and wasting) their money than the government not spending enough on foodstamps? Yeah. I think that's pretty much exactly the viewpoint of most of the middle class in America. Given the assumption of being "middle class", I'd expect that most are far far more concerned about what they have being taken away, than the government failing to provide something they don't really need (or want).
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As opposed to two people meeting while attending ivy league colleges
I love how Republicans try to tear down the Obamas for working their asses off and studying and attending some of the best schools in the nation.
Not what I'm doing at all. I am merely questioning the idea that somehow the Obama's are more in touch with the average American than the Romney's are. You're projecting.
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No "Holy shit, that would be an impressive feat even if you came from better circumstances, but that you raised yourself up to that is really something and we salute your obvious hard work and sacrifice" but rather "LOL they went to IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS!!!!" As though you just roll someone down a hill towards a college and it opens its doors and lets you in.
Which would be a valid point if only one candidate "came from better circumstances". Once again you completely misunderstand the point I'm making. You think I'm attacking Obama for attending an ivy league school. But that's pure projection. I'm pointing out that both of them had remarkably similar
education histories. They both attended public schools early on (Obama less than Romney actually). Both began attending more prestigious private schools later (Obama starting around 4th grade, Romney around 7th). Both then went on to college in California (Obama to Occidental, Romney to Stanford). Romney spent a couple years on his Mission, then finished his BA in English at BYU. Obama transferred to Columbia and completed his BA in Political Science, then spent time working in Chicago for political organizations. Both finished out their education at Harvard. Obama at Harvard Law, obtaining a Juris Doctor, Romney at Harvard Law and Harvard Business, obtaining a Juris Doctor and MBA respectively.
To suggest that one of them is somehow more out of touch than the other purely because of their history growing up and their education is pretty ridiculous. Yet, that appears to be exactly what the political left is attempting to do. They paint Obama as this man of the people, struggling to raise his station in life against great odds, while Romney just had life handed to him on a silver platter. The reality is that both men had advantages in life and both men took those advantages and used them to advance themselves. I'm not attacking Obama for his education. I'm countering that false perception that he somehow had it harder than Romney did.
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The hypocrisy is hilarious.
Yes, it is quite hilarious when people attempt to make it seem like Obama is more in touch with the average American than Romney. Let's not forget that this part of the thread started when someone made a comment suggesting that the Obamas struggled, but the Romneys did not. I have passed no judgment on the facts of Obama's education and history except to point out that it's a lot more similar to that of Romney's than most people seem to realize.