crazylegz1975 wrote:
Smasharoo wrote:
Yes. Because the Palestinians are just peacefully sitting there doing nothing at all.
There no "Palestinians" because, apparently, self determination only matters if you're a Jew in the opinion of Israel. I get the counter POV, here, it's not complicated. People who hate you are an inch away from your borders shooting rockets at your citizens. That's no good. It's hard to get past the fact that Israel has oppressively marginalized this area to the point where they've made life hell for 20 year olds who couldn't have cared less about the wars in the 70's and essentially guaranteed another generation of conflict. For what?
Of course self determination for the muslims involves killing all the jews and anyone else who opposes sharia law.
Obama gave egypt to the muslims and now we're seeing the results.
Actually, that's never been what it was about. It has more or less always been about the holy land itself and then treatment of one side by the other. Time for a history lesson(no math for you today!).
At the end of the second world war, the allies, specifically the British, more or less controlled the middle east; syria, jordan, lebanon, palestine, etc. Now the people who would come to found Isreal wished to return to the promised land around Jerusalem, and the Palestinians wanted the same land, and were already there. The British, seeing that this could turn into a sort of civil war, made the offer that they split the area, and leave Jerusalem under the control of the UN(similar to how control of Berlin worked, but without Soviets). The Israelis accepted this, however, the Palestinians rejected it, and proceeded to lose a war over it.
So back then, it was easy to see Israel as the good guys, they saw a.good deal(mind you one that would have been temporary) and took it while the Palestinians got kinda...religiously greedy. However, since then(and this is wht causes others and myself to take the side of the palestinians), Israel has made it their mission to be ***** to all their neighbours, and to commit constant crimes against humanity in the region. And all of it over one ancient city and area, that could so easily be shared. I suppose that in reality, all sides are at complete fault, and the ignorance of people in the countries that support either side, tends to not help the situation at all.
Sharia law, and other religious practices(which, from what I've read, ae not practised by the majority of Palestinians, or muslims for that matter at this point) have absolutely nothing to do with it, and your hate-mongering is a perfect example of what is not helping at all for either side.
Now, I've asked this before, both to you, and others who are about as ignorant of contemporary history(or history in general) as you are: why don't you actually look into the history of the things you claim? Is it because you're lazy? Dumb? Uninterested?(Which would call into question as to why the disinterested would bother to say anything at all)? What is it? I'm legitimately curious about that. Why doesn't anyone seem to want to actually learn things?