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#102 Jul 12 2013 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
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Not ideal, but what can you do eh?
Make your position relevant again...Two words...Explosive Bridge! Like in one of those tower defense games!
I suggest directional charges. That way you can launch vehicles from one side to the other and save on having to complete a whole bridge.
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#103 Jul 12 2013 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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I bet an Eight-legged Intruder Detection, Alarm and Auto-nuke System would be a hot-seller.

You could invent one.
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#104 Jul 12 2013 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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I believe Elinda's point was that PVC piping is typically rigid (particularly for large municipal use) and thus doesn't require much in the way of phthalates which are used to keep the plastic soft at normal temperatures.

PVC used as a 'fabric' and the like would be a different story. But that's not much of a water leeching concern unless you have really weird pipes.

Let me try this again.

Cigarette smoke causes lung cancer.

Asbestos causes Mesothelioma.

Vaccines don't cause Autism.

Lead exposure causes brain damage in children.

PVA causes breast and testicular cancer, infertility, and probably causes emotional imbalances via it interfering with our hormonal systems.

No matter how rigid the water pipe.

You remember how they discovered most crude oil derived synthetics were endocrine disruptors? Because they thought that all this fish and animal infertility around lakes might be caused by leftover birth-contorl chemicals in women's urine. Except when they investigated that theory, they ruled the birth control out and the PVC pipes in, along with other plastic and petrochemical pollution. What does every oestrogen have in common? A benzine ring and being fat-soluable. What do most petrochemicals, synthetic plastics and synthetic fragrances have in common? A benzine ring and being fat-soluble. This isn't something to blank out of your mind because imagining a life without plastic is too hard. There are cheap and easy alternatives right now. There are a heap of plastics and synthetics that AREN'T endocrine disrupting. And the test to find out is simple and cheap. Welcome to the next Senate hearing. "Sir, when did you first know that there was a scientific consensus showing that the product you sell causes cancer and infertility?"


Have you seen Coca-cola's new "beach-ready Coke bottle" ? The bottle itself is shipped to food stands frozen. It's made of ice. When you are done with your soda, you have a nice chunk of ice to melt into a towel or whatever. And no plastic bottle to worry about recycling (or leaching chemicals.) Yeah, it takes more energy to ship the bottles frozen than it does just "cold" but not that much more, and the reduced cost of packing probably makes up for it.
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Why would I want to get my towel all cold and wet versus just chucking the empty at a seagull?

And who wants to hold a chunk of ice while drinking their soda?
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#106 Jul 12 2013 at 11:01 AM Rating: Good
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The biggest source of exposure to BPA and other phthalates is in food packaging. Most canned goods are lined with a thin plastic membrane that contains BPA. Flexible plastic food containers most likely contain PBA. I would definitely insure baby bottles, pacifiers, teething rings, etc were BPA free. Kids toys have mostly gotten away from phthalates as the EU banned their use years ago. There are still some around though. Often times the really cheap bulk toys you buy at the dollar stores and what-not are rejects from other countries. Avoid them.

Just to make this point again in the hopes to try quell the spread of mountainous, though not necessarily accurate, tree-hugger info, PVC does not automatically come with additives and PVC it'self is not an endocrine disrupter. Sure, burning PVC releases dioxins - this is bad, but PVC water pipe is not implicated in exposure to endocrine disrupters.
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#107 Jul 12 2013 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
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Why would I want to get my towel all cold and wet versus just chucking the empty at a seagull?

And who wants to hold a chunk of ice while drinking their soda?


Someone on the beach when it's 95F out, duh.
#108 Jul 12 2013 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Why would I want to get my towel all cold and wet versus just chucking the empty at a seagull?

And who wants to hold a chunk of ice while drinking their soda?

I'd think the melting chunk of ice would be sticky with soda residue.

Still ice created containers is an interesting idea. At the bar I worked at we'd get all sorts of special promotional stuff from the booze distributors. These were usually related to some holiday or other special even. On Valentines day Baileys Irish Cream would provide us with little chocolate cups to serve their liqueur in and little chocolate stir sticks. Very few ever made it out to the customers.
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#109 Jul 12 2013 at 11:11 AM Rating: Good
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Stabbing someone with that bottle would certainly be efficient.
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#110 Jul 12 2013 at 11:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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I think my problem would be that the ice would melt before I'd finished the soda. That could get messy.
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#111 Jul 12 2013 at 11:25 AM Rating: Good
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Stabbing someone with that bottle would certainly be efficient.


And no murder weapon, once the bottle melts! Brilliant!
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#112 Jul 12 2013 at 11:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Well, that's part of the problem. You'd have to stab them pretty quick, before your knife turns into a club.
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#113 Jul 12 2013 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:
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Stabbing someone with that bottle would certainly be efficient.


And no murder weapon, once the bottle melts! Brilliant!

Ice bullets. Some one needs to invent them.

Or maybe they already have..Smiley: um
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#114 Jul 12 2013 at 11:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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There was a Mythbusters on that. Not that I remember how it turned out or anything.

Because I found it!

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Myth statement 	Status 	Notes 
An ice bullet can kill someone without leaving a trace. 	Busted 	The ice bullet evaporated before it could leave the barrel. This myth was retested in Myths Revisited, and remained busted with slow-frozen ice. 
A meat bullet can kill someone without leaving a trace. 	Busted 	The hamburger bullet fragmented on contact with the skin, causing only superficial damage. 
A gelatin bullet can kill someone without leaving a trace. 	Busted 	The bullet did not cause fatal injury from the 6.5x52mm Mannlicher-Carcano round, but had better result from a revolver at point-blank range. Desiring a more subtle assassination tool, the pair examined the Bulgarian umbrella. 
An assassin can use a poison capsule fired from an umbrella to kill someone without leaving a trace. 	Confirmed 	It was found to have been the cause of death of a notable Bulgarian journalist in exile, Georgi Markov. The MythBusters build a pair of replicas with a gas cylinder and an air gun, and fired both to lethal effect without leaving gunpowder burns.



Edited, Jul 12th 2013 11:03am by someproteinguy
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#115 Jul 12 2013 at 11:56 AM Rating: Good
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Ice doesn't hold form as well when dealing with that kind of force.

Edited, Jul 12th 2013 1:57pm by lolgaxe
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#116 Jul 14 2013 at 1:12 AM Rating: Good
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Bones revisited the myth with a bullet made of frozen blood. According to TV-script-land, because blood has different freeze/evaporate temperatures to water, a blood bullet works as a bullet, and is bloody* hard to find trace evidence of.

*ha ha

PS I'm very glad you are not out of work Kaolian, although nasty paycut is bad enough, not to mention the stress on you and everyone who gets sacked and your work being trashed so illogically.


Edited, Jul 14th 2013 3:15am by Aripyanfar
#117 Jul 14 2013 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aripyanfar wrote:
Bones revisited the myth with a bullet made of frozen blood. According to TV-script-land, because blood has different freeze/evaporate temperatures to water, a blood bullet works as a bullet, and is bloody* hard to find trace evidence of.


Except if you miss, and then there is a convenient blood coated hole in the wall/floor/innocent bystander.
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#118 Jul 15 2013 at 7:18 AM Rating: Good
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Well, there'd probably be a convenient blood coated hole in the wall/floor/innocent bystander if you hit, too.
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#119 Jul 15 2013 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
Well, there'd probably be a convenient blood coated hole in the wall/floor/innocent bystander if you hit, too.


The thing about frozen liquid rounds is that they aren't supposed to leave exit wounds. They're like cheap hollow points.
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#120 Jul 15 2013 at 8:02 AM Rating: Good
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If we can pretend it would survive evaporation, we can pretend it could puncture through fleshmeats and walls. Smiley: motz
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#121 Jul 15 2013 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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But what if it was a warning shot? Smiley: lol
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#122 Jul 15 2013 at 8:09 AM Rating: Good
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Oh god the walls are bleeding horror moment?
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Redrum. Redrum.
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#124 Jul 15 2013 at 8:16 AM Rating: Good
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Oh god the walls are bleeding horror moment?


Screenshot


Director's "Assault Weapon" Cut
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#125 Jul 15 2013 at 8:18 AM Rating: Good
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Beautiful.







And kinda disgusting.
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We can make it worse. Like mentioning that off screen is the newest super hero, Heavy Flo.
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