lolgaxe wrote:
Right about their ability to pick a state with strict gun control and say "See?! Moiders!" while ignoring the more lax states, I guess.
Yeah, I don't think that anyone should pretend that Gbaji meant anything other than "Chicago has so many murders right now because of its gun laws!" when he said "
(how's that murder rate in Chicago going btw?)" It's a stock conservative talking point and one you hear all the time on national talk radio. Gbaji had no idea that there was a dramatic drop in 2013 although he'll naturally swear otherwise.
But murder rates
were way down in 2013 so it's time to backpedal and say that's all because of the SCotUS ruling. Really? But that ruling was in 2010. And 2011 murder rates were identical to 2010. And 2012 had a huge spike in murders, something like a 15% increase over 2011. So naturally, we should attribute that
spike in murders to the SCotUS ruling that overturned the gun ban? That all ignores other things like straw sales right over the city line but that threatens to make this issue far more faceted and complex than you can hope someone parroting platitudes like "an armed society is a polite society" to understand.
In fact, it was that 2012 spike that really helped create the conservative meme and I'd listen to idiots like Hannity and Limbaugh and O'Reilly talk about the Chicago murder rate and its gun ban in the same breath, either ignorant of the 2010 ruling or else just hoping that their listeners were. I think it's pretty obvious that Gbaji was living out their best hopes.
Edited, Jan 25th 2014 6:16pm by Jophiel