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#52 Jan 24 2014 at 7:18 PM Rating: Good
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Aethien, please. We're about to have a breakthrough.

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#53 Jan 24 2014 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
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Hah. Funny, but also relevant to a conversation a co-worker and I had last week (or maybe two weeks ago? I forget). He was telling me about this case (which I hadn't actually heard about yet) and I was telling him about the girl who ended out brain dead as a result of a botched appendectomy. He had a very different perspective on both cases due to something that happened to him when he was a child. His brother was in an accident and was declared brain dead by the doctors at the time. His mom refused to believe them, even when they insisted they could detect no neural activity in his brain stem and no response from any stimulus. She fought against their attempts to remove him from life support. Then after 3 months, he woke up.

Good story. Didn't happen, of course, no one "wakes up" from clinical brain death, but would make a nice TV movie. Note: I'm not claiming you weren't told this story.
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#54 Jan 24 2014 at 7:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Most people don't know the difference between a coma, a persistent vegetative state, and brain death. There is, fortunately, no reason for most people to know. And I suppose when your kid's just been hit by a car, it's not the easiest time to learn the difference.
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#55 Jan 24 2014 at 8:04 PM Rating: Good
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Good story. Didn't happen, of course, no one "wakes up" from clinical brain death, but would make a nice TV movie. Note: I'm not claiming you weren't told this story.


Hey. My first instinct was to be skeptical as well. I asked him the whole battery of "are you sure the doctors actually said he was brain dead and not just in a coma?" type questions. He swore up and down that the doctors said specifically that there was zero neural activity in the brain stem. Obviously, I have no way to directly confirm this, but I have to accept the possibility that the same profession which can accidentally amputate the wrong leg and perform operations on the wrong patient could get something like this wrong as well.

I mean, it's not like it's never happened.

Edited, Jan 24th 2014 6:04pm by gbaji
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#56 Jan 24 2014 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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Sure, and that's a great argument if you want to argue that a bunch of stone age primitives are more advanced than the people who effortlessly conquered them from across an ocean they couldn't have dreamed of crossing. It's the best you've got - try to pretend that efficient farming is the only measure of a civlisation's technological progress. I can almost respect that.

As I made clear in my last post, what was stupid was that, in the course of making your argument, it became clear you had an understanding of European society was made up of a patchwork of cartoonish misconceptions about bathing habits, the complexity and use of machinery and the social organisation of labour. Anachronistic stereotypes normally (and also incorrectly) applied to the dark ages, you know. You spent pages on pages arguing about something you hadn't got the first clue about.

You did it for the same reason you called 'strawman' above over a direct quote of your position. Do you know what that reason is, Idiggory?


Smiley: lolSmiley: lolSmiley: lol

Alright then. Because it's so hard to conquer an empire collapsing under the rapid spread of plague. Not particularly hard to take the capital when 2/3 of it's population are mortally ill or dead, and you're marching in with a small army of native warriors from foreign tribes.

Either way, it's fine you think I'm stupidly ignorant on the subject. Honestly don't care. I remember what I said in the thread, and I know my words were being twisted then. I have the rec. letters I need to get into a decent grad school if I want. But don't worry, you're safe, I probably won't pursue it.
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#57 Jan 24 2014 at 10:12 PM Rating: Decent
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I mean, it's not like it's never happened.


No, it's never happened. He wasn't declared brain dead. There was a consensus that he was unlikely to survive and that his organs should be harvested before he died, but that's apparently too boring for the Telegraph. I don't want to re litigate a British tabloid sensation, but really, brain death is pretty clear. "This guy will be brain dead in three days" (the consensus and as it turned out wrong Thorpe diagnosis) is far less clear.
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#58 Jan 24 2014 at 10:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, I do vaguely remember that. Germs, Guns and Steel for the win.

Well written book. Horrible, horrible, research and basically fiction, but well written. Was at a dinner party Diamond was at when I was playing cards in LA once. Nice guy, voice made me want to claw my own eardrums out, but I resisted somehow.
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#59 Jan 24 2014 at 11:11 PM Rating: Good
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What a name dropper! Smiley: oyvey

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#60 Jan 25 2014 at 8:17 AM Rating: Excellent
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Okay, I do vaguely remember that. Germs, Guns and Steel for the win.

Well written book. Horrible, horrible, research and basically fiction, but well written. Was at a dinner party Diamond was at when I was playing cards in LA once. Nice guy, voice made me want to claw my own eardrums out, but I resisted somehow.


Yeah, it was an intriguing idea with essentially no way to back it up. Fun read.
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#61 Jan 25 2014 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
fMRI using the BOLD method was invented in 1990 and put into commercial use by 1992, and that's the standard used to determine the amount of activity in brains today. So it's more likely your friend was just in a very deep coma.

Edited, Jan 25th 2014 12:08pm by Catwho
#62 Jan 27 2014 at 9:12 AM Rating: Good
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Life support was turned off yesterday.

Now...was that so hard?!
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#63 Jan 27 2014 at 9:13 AM Rating: Good
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What a name dropper! Smiley: oyvey

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No one dropped names like Nobby.

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