Smasharoo wrote:
By far the biggest determinant of victimization is poverty.
Hi. Stop saying this until you find anything that indicates it's true other than your own intuition. Which, we should remind you, is ALMOST ALWAYS WRONG.
I'm not wrong. Saying it over and over doesn't change that fact. By far the most significant determinant of whether someone living in the US will be the victim of a criminal act is their economic condition. The poorer the neighborhood you live in, the greater your odds of being a victim of crime. Period. There is literally no one (except you apparently) who refutes this.
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I provided you the source data.
Um... You linked to the staring BJS page. I guess technically that's "data", but that's like pointing at a stack of encyclopedias and saying "the proof is in there, go find it".
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Are you still having trouble understanding how to use the website? I'd be happy to help.
By all means, do! Why not actually link to the exact publication which contains the information that supports your claim that a rich black man is more likely to be the victim of a crime than a poor white man, and then actually
quote the portion of that publication that says this.
I'll wait.
While we're all waiting for the "data" that you'll never provide, here's an interesting read that's
relevant to the subject at hand. Paper focuses on homicide rates for different racial groups, but has some interesting insight into why, and how living environments almost perfectly account for the differences between those rates for each group (latinos actually have a lower adjusted rates than whites when adjusted for socio-economic factors, while blacks have a higher rate).
Note though, that at no point do the authors even speculate that race alone comes anywhere close to offsetting environment as the primary factor. They're examining differences between poor whites and poor blacks/latinos and finding that when the environment is similar enough, the differences by race nearly disappear. Point being that social condition matters most. Economic status, education, employment, and other factors all matter more than the skin color of the person. As I mentioned above,
no one claims otherwise.
Which leaves me still scratching my head as to why you'd not just think that this was true, but be so argumentative about the subject. I mean, I get that you have a need for people to believe this, but you can't possibly actually believe it yourself, right? Right?