Omnibus Politics Thread: Campaign 2016 Edition

#907 Feb 24 2016 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good

lolgaxe

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I just saw a new (to me) ad.

Ted Cruz wrote:

If you wage jihad against us, you're signing your death warrant.

Because if there's one thing a person in an exploding vest is worried about, it's being killed. Smiley: dubious

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#908 Feb 24 2016 at 11:40 AM Rating: Excellent

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lolgaxe wrote:

I just saw a new (to me) ad.

Ted Cruz wrote:

If you wage jihad against us, you're signing your death warrant.

Because if there's one thing a person in an exploding vest is worried about, it's being killed. Smiley: dubious

To be fair exploding instantly sounds like a much better fate than lingering in Guantanamo for 5-6 years before hanging yourself.

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#909 Feb 29 2016 at 9:50 AM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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Must be an election cycle:

Idaho Spokesman-Review wrote:

Idaho lawmakers ratcheted up the abortion debate Thursday, as one state representative said he believes rape and incest are unlikely to result in pregnancy, and a party-line vote backed one of two bills championed this year by anti-abortion groups.
[...]
During the hearing Rep. Pete Nielsen, R-Mountain Home, said, â€œNow, Iâ€™m of the understanding that in many cases of rape it does not involve any pregnancy because of the trauma of the incident. That may be true with incest a little bit.â€
[...]
He added, â€œI read a lot of information. I have read it several times. â€¦ Being a father of five girls, Iâ€™ve explored this a lot.â€

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#910 Feb 29 2016 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent

lolgaxe

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He's explored incest and rape with his five daughters? Smiley: dubious

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#911 Feb 29 2016 at 10:01 AM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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#912 Feb 29 2016 at 10:59 AM Rating: Good

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Seriously, are we not doing "phrasing" anymore?

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#913 Mar 31 2016 at 1:58 PM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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Lefein wrote:

After this latest bout of crazy coming from Donald Trump about punishing women for having abortions, I can honestly say that I would vote for Hillary Clinton if I had to choose between him or her.

(Copied & Pasted from the Bernie thread so it doesn't get bogged down about abortion)

I don't really get what all the Republican horror and backpedaling from this is about. How many times have I had to listen to "Oh, you support MURDERING BABIES??" when Republicans talked about abortion? So, if they feel that "murdering babies" is terrible and wrong, why NOT punish the woman who decided to go have a baby murdered? Why would you only go after the doctor? That's like arresting a hit man but not the person who hired him to murder someone.

I suppose it's like the "rape and incest" exemption. "Oh, it's absolutely MURDER to have an abortion but it's okay to murder babies conceived from rape. They... don't really count?"

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#914 Mar 31 2016 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent

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Votes; more women voters than babies or abortion-performing doctors. Never piss off a subgroup with significant voting power.

Smiley: tinfoilhat

Edited, Mar 31st 2016 1:11pm by someproteinguy

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#915 Mar 31 2016 at 2:22 PM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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Oh, I know that. Just noting the dissonance between the supposed fire of their convictions and what they'll actually espouse.

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#916 Mar 31 2016 at 2:43 PM Rating: Excellent

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Well that said it would have been amusing for them to try to argue that around 28% of voting age women (thank you google!) are people who needed to be punished as criminals.

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#917 Mar 31 2016 at 6:17 PM Rating: Default

Almalieque

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Jophiel wrote:

Lefein wrote:

After this latest bout of crazy coming from Donald Trump about punishing women for having abortions, I can honestly say that I would vote for Hillary Clinton if I had to choose between him or her.

(Copied & Pasted from the Bernie thread so it doesn't get bogged down about abortion)

I don't really get what all the Republican horror and backpedaling from this is about. How many times have I had to listen to "Oh, you support MURDERING BABIES??" when Republicans talked about abortion? So, if they feel that "murdering babies" is terrible and wrong, why NOT punish the woman who decided to go have a baby murdered? Why would you only go after the doctor? That's like arresting a hit man but not the person who hired him to murder someone.

I suppose it's like the "rape and incest" exemption. "Oh, it's absolutely MURDER to have an abortion but it's okay to murder babies conceived from rape. They... don't really count?"

I concur. I was wondering a similar concept. I'm not a fan of abortion, but clearly the GOP is trying to have it both ways. They are trying to create a "middle ground" to woo people over. I was glad to hear on MSNBC someone pushing back to the notion of "being a victim". How can a person who made choices (not rape, deserted, etc), be a "victim". The GOP is merely going as far as they can go with statements without losing their base. Apparently, wanting to charge the women offends enough of the base that it has become an exception. Just like incest, when exactly does this happen?

#918 Apr 01 2016 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good

lolgaxe

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someproteinguy wrote:

Never piss off a subgroup with significant voting power.

Doesn't seem to be hurting Trump's chances.

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I think itâ€™s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.

#919 Apr 01 2016 at 10:19 AM Rating: Excellent

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lolgaxe wrote:

someproteinguy wrote:

Never piss off a subgroup with significant voting power.

Doesn't seem to be hurting Trump's chances.

Aye, but he can't live in the alternate universe of the Republican primaries forever. Democrats certainly won't mind playing quote ad nauseum come the general election, and female swing voters are going to have a hard time swallowing the idea that 1/4 of them are criminals.

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#920 Apr 01 2016 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good

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someproteinguy wrote:

and female swing voters are going to have a hard time swallowing the idea that 1/4 of them are criminals.

Insert inappropriate oral sex joke here

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#921 Apr 01 2016 at 10:48 AM Rating: Good

lolgaxe

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Heh, insert.

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#922 Apr 01 2016 at 10:56 AM Rating: Excellent

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Professor stupidmonkey wrote:

someproteinguy wrote:

and female swing voters are going to have a hard time swallowing the idea that 1/4 of them are criminals.

Insert inappropriate oral *** joke here

Pfft, there's no such things as an inappropriate oral sex joke. Smiley: sly

Also just for fun: Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton and the 'None of the Above' era in politics

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#923 Apr 01 2016 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good

Poldaran

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someproteinguy wrote:

female swing voters are going to have a hard time swallowing the idea that 1/4 of them are criminals.

Wait. 1/4 of women have had abortions?

We REALLY need to start teaching idiots about condom use.

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#924 Apr 01 2016 at 12:05 PM Rating: Excellent

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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:

Wait. 1/4 of women have had abortions?

I googled "what percentage of women will have an abortion?" and the top hit was "Summary: It is estimated here that, as of 2008, about 28% of U.S. women ages 15-64 have had abortions." A quick look through the other top hits didn't give me anything that grossly contradicted it. Feel free to link some more accurate numbers if you find them though, I didn't work too hard on it TBH.

Edit: The top hit, for what it's worth.

The One and Only Poldaran wrote:

We REALLY need to start teaching idiots about condom use.

I can assure you that the failure rate of those (and really most common birth control methods) over the lifetime of a long term relationship is sufficient to yield multiple opportunities for an abortion.

Edited, Apr 1st 2016 11:08am by someproteinguy

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#925 Apr 01 2016 at 12:49 PM Rating: Good

Poldaran

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Here's what I found with a just as lazy search. Edit: You know, I have to wonder what exactly they're counting as an abortion. Guess I'm gonna have to do more research.

Edited, Apr 1st 2016 12:51pm by Poldaran

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#926 Apr 01 2016 at 1:06 PM Rating: Excellent

Jophiel

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Sounds accurate enough. It was 1-in-3 based on the 2008 rate which may have fallen, but probably not by so much that 1-in-4 (25%) is going to be significantly off. The actual number probably being something less graceful like 9-in-32

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