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#1102 Jul 27 2016 at 7:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I guess we get "Republican Defector" night. Bloomberg will speak for Clinton as well as this guy:
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On the night that Hillary Clinton accepts the Democratic Party’s nomination for president, Sacramento Republican Doug Elmets, who worked in the Reagan White House and spearheaded construction of a statue of the late president at the California Capitol, will deliver a blistering critique of Donald Trump at the Democratic National Convention.

In his Thursday night address, the Sacramento public affairs consultant will call Trump a “petulant, dangerously unbalanced TV star” and contrast him with Ronald Reagan, he said Monday.
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Elmets’ speech will be brief, lasting 2 1/2 minutes, and would be routine if not for the source. Not only is Elmets tied to Reagan, a conservative icon, he is a 58-year-old white man, a relatively strong demographic for Trump. He said he has never before voted for a Democrat.

Elmets said he will tell delegates that Trump is “running for president based on fear, whereas Ronald Reagan ran for president based on hope.” He said he also plans to criticize the Republican Party platform, which he called “the most alarming collection of extreme positions imaginable.”

“Although Hillary Clinton holds many policy positions that differ from my own, her qualifications to be president are indisputable,” he said. “She is probably more qualified than anybody in modern history to be president of the United States.”

I don't know if Elmets is "high talent" but I don't believe that Trump had any Democratic defectors speaking on his behalf a la Lieberman or Zell Miller in contests past.
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#1103 Jul 27 2016 at 7:54 AM Rating: Good
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He's clearly not a real conservative and it's just ginned up by the media.
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#1104 Jul 27 2016 at 7:59 AM Rating: Good
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Maybe he should be dumped in a harbour.
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#1105 Jul 27 2016 at 9:55 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't know if Elmets is "high talent" but I don't believe that Trump had any Democratic defectors speaking on his behalf a la Lieberman or Zell Miller in contests past.
Obama's half-brother likes him.

Not that you'd really want the guy speaking for you or anything, but hey, you take what you can get. Smiley: rolleyes
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#1106 Jul 27 2016 at 10:53 AM Rating: Decent
Let me know if the Democrats ever decided to us the US flag. Wanna know why we didn't see any US flags at the DNC convention? Well a Harvard study shows that Democrats support falls the more visible US flags are.
#1107 Jul 27 2016 at 10:54 AM Rating: Decent
So exactly was has the hildebeast accomplished again?

Edited, Jul 27th 2016 12:55pm by jbizness
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Dude, there's been two nights of speeches so far about that. Stop crying about flags and pay attention.
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#1109 Jul 27 2016 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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Let me know if the Democrats ever decided to us the US flag. Wanna know why we didn't see any US flags at the DNC convention? Well a Harvard study shows that Democrats support falls the more visible US flags are.


Yeah, well, you can't trust those ivory tower academics.
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Let me know if the Democrats ever decided to us the US flag. Wanna know why we didn't see any US flags at the DNC convention? Well a Harvard study shows that Democrats support falls the more visible US flags are.


Yeah, well, you can't trust those ivory tower academics.
Ridiculous, studies have shown that academics are overwhelmingly trustworthy.
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Yeah, well, you can't trust those ivory tower academics.

Does the ivory tower have a flag on top?
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#1112 Jul 27 2016 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
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Now Trump is calling on Russia to hack the State Department to find the missing emails.

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#1113 Jul 27 2016 at 1:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well that'll make for some awkward moments going forward.

Do wonder if his talent for topping himself will lead to problems for him down the road. I mean right now he's popular, and a bit more untouchable, but that can't last forever. At some point his popularity will fade, and he's going to have made a lot of enemies wanting for some bit of revenge.
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#1114 Jul 27 2016 at 1:57 PM Rating: Default
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Haha! Trump, trying to steal Clinton's thunder, just overshadowed the Clinton TPP controversy. That backfired!
#1115 Jul 27 2016 at 2:02 PM Rating: Good
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Damn, it's amazing how fast the RNC got Trump to fall into line. This is just like that letter their senators wrote to Iran.
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He also said he'd drop US objections to Russia's action in Crimea and let Russia have it.
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#1117 Jul 27 2016 at 2:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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He also said he'd drop US objections to Russia's action in Crimea and let Russia have it.
Meh, given that our response hasn't been much more than saying "that's not nice!" there's probably little value in our objection anyway.
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And apparently I can't say it here either.
How exactly did she get on stage anyway?

I guess she's some big political actor-vist.
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#1119 Jul 27 2016 at 3:13 PM Rating: Good
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Think Clinton will finally have some info security, or just say **** it?
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#1120 Jul 27 2016 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
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Saw something about the lack of American flags at the DNC yesterday. Is this really the kind of thing conservatives care about? I mean so what if we're all toothless morons at the RNC we're all waving 'Merican flags ahyuckayuckayucka.
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Gbaji once insisted that Obama was going to be hurt during the 2008 election for not wearing a flag pin.
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#1122 Jul 27 2016 at 7:26 PM Rating: Excellent
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Biden was my first pick for 2016 but so it goes. Great speech, though.
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#1123 Jul 27 2016 at 7:33 PM Rating: Decent
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So funny how quickly the Clinton campaign (and Obama too!) took that bit of bait. Watch the freaking video. It's obvious he was joking. The entire audience full of reporters was laughing about it. Wow... I get that the Dems are desperate to make this about the hacking and not the racist, homophobic, and anti-semitic stuff they say when there aren't any Jews, blacks, or gays in the room, but this just takes the cake.
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So funny how quickly the Clinton campaign (and Obama too!) took that bit of bait. Watch the freaking video. It's obvious he was joking. The entire audience full of reporters was laughing about it. Wow... I get that the Dems are desperate to make this about the hacking and not the racist, homophobic, and anti-semitic stuff they say when there aren't any Jews, blacks, or gays in the room, but this just takes the cake.

If only he didn't double down.

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#1125 Jul 27 2016 at 7:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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WSJ wrote:
Mr. Trump was asked in the news conference whether he was urging Russia to hack Mrs. Clinton’s emails. “That’s up to the president,” he said, referring to Mr. Putin. He added he had no intention to give orders to the Russian leader. “I’m not going to tell Putin what to do,” Mr. Trump said. “Why should I tell Putin what to do?”

That's the point where someone who was actually just joking would have said "I was just joking" instead of some lame non-denial.
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Saw something about the lack of American flags at the DNC yesterday. Is this really the kind of thing conservatives care about? I mean so what if we're all toothless morons at the RNC we're all waving 'Merican flags ahyuckayuckayucka.


It's a thing that most Americans care about. When you're running for political office in a country, it might be a good idea to, you know, show some kind of symbol of the country you're asking to serve. Normally, this is done by displaying a flag. No one's saying that you must have the entire crowd standing around waving flags all day long or anything, but it was noticeable that for the first day, that there wasn't a single US flag to be seen anywhere. Not on the stage. Not off to the side. Not next to an entrance. Not near any podium. Not one flag visible anywhere. And they only appear to have added a flag or two after people noticed the lack of them and commented on it.

Every classroom has a flag in it. Every public meeting, from the local PTA to city council to state legislatures will have a flag somewhere in the room (usually off to the right side of the stage/podium/whatever). So yeah, it's kinda "odd" to not have one at a national convention for a political party. Again, no one's saying you have to go crazy with your flag waving or something, but the absence of the flag does kinda indicate the mindset of the party in question, and the members of that party.
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