Omnibus Politics Thread: Campaign 2016 EditionFollow

Simpler version of what I wrote here:

When the argument is "Trump has ignored precedent in ways that 'precedent' alone isn't enough to give him the benefit of the doubt", defending his actions with "But look! Precedent!" proves little more than how much you missed the point.

Edited, Jan 29th 2017 9:15pm by Jophiel

Was there a firing? I had heard that the upper echelon resigned a couple days ago but hadn't heard that they were fired or of anyone else being fired.

Not doubting, mind you. Just hadn't heard.

So far the most amusing thing thanks to ol' 45's ban is that an Oscar nominated director is apparently banned from entering the country for the event.

Sorry for breaking the filter everyone but I really needed to call Jophiel out on his behaviour just now

The punk I was cry-fucking to Yakety Sax told me to.

It was just the usual leaving of political appointees.

Re: the State Department departures, I'm not arguing that their on-file resignations should not have been accepted; that's certainly within the rights of a new administration. However, it seems precipitous to me, at least, to release the leadership of an entire division (except for, I think, HR) without having replacements in place or even chosen. That makes implementation sort of problematic, as we've seen, and incidentally sacrifices any experienced advice about how to best handle such a move.

I kind of weirdly sympathize with the impulse to shake things up. I'm just not sure canning everyone who knows how to get things done before you or anyone you've brought on with you knows how to get things done is a great idea. Bureaucracies don't turn on a dime.

If you're not willing to break the law to virtue signal then frankly I think we all know which side you're on, Mr.Ivotedforthelawandordercandidate.

By, uh, by the way, you might want to change your surname, it's a little cumbersome.

Maybe if you'd stop canceling them before I can use them ...

If nothing else this Trump guy has been as entertaining as promised. Action-orientated, getting things done, changing stuff, going with the whole "I'm an alpha male" personality bit to the end, and pushing the agenda with it. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy watching this for a while and wonder how long he'll be able to keep this head of steam going.

Reminds me vaguely about a couple of research papers I leafed through a while back SpoilerHush. It's called being bored at work with access to lots of subscription scientific journals for free. about the behavior of different types of alpha males in primate groups. Long story short the more benevolent alphas tended not to last as long on top, but their downfall came with less disruption, and they generally lived on along the fringes of the group and usually weren't badly treated after their reign was over. The more aggressive alphas however, tended to stay on top a bit longer, but their downfall also tended to be swift and violent. The pent up aggression of the other members being unleashed once it was clear they were weakening.

It's probably not as relevant to modern society; still all the more reason to stay tuned.

Well, he already said that Christian refugees would be given priority, so he's already skating on very thin ice.

I just think that it's quite convenient Obama left him with a list of countries to use that just happen to be ones he doesn't do business with and somehow also bans all the muslims except all the ones that are from countries not on the list.

Or people are reading too much into it.