I feel like Sasuke's sudden swapping back to good guy status is Kishimoto backpedaling. From the point Sasuke talked to Tobi after the Sasuke/Itachi fight, Sasuke knew that Itachi died defending the Leaf, and even still wanted to destroy it. He only changes his mind just now because he talked to the First Hokage and learned about his and Madara's past Which, by the way, sums up as the First being all "Let's have peace!" and Madara being all "Ok!" but then later suddenly "lolno imma be evil now.". This pretty much revealed exactly 0 new relevant things to Sasuke's decision to attack Konoha.
Whatever.
Wait, didn't the 10 tails blow up Konoha already? How are the Hokages there?
"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
I feel like Sasuke's sudden swapping back to good guy status is Kishimoto backpedaling. From the point Sasuke talked to Tobi after the Sasuke/Itachi fight, Sasuke knew that Itachi died defending the Leaf, and even still wanted to destroy it. He only changes his mind just now because he talked to the First Hokage and learned about his and Madara's past Which, by the way, sums up as the First being all "Let's have peace!" and Madara being all "Ok!" but then later suddenly "lolno imma be evil now.". This pretty much revealed exactly 0 new relevant things to Sasuke's decision to attack Konoha.
Whatever.
Wait, didn't the 10 tails blow up Konoha already? How are the Hokages there?
Madara changed his mind(went evil again) because while the first and him were friends, he couldn't forgive his clans deaths, and after over hearing the first and his brother, didnt think the clans could work together, and that the Uchiada clan would always be 2nd class citizens. (The first mentions how he wants Madara to become the 2nd Hokage, but his brother tells him that the counsel will never allow it. Madara thinks the only way to peace is to unwillingly force it onto people. The first thinks to bring peace people have to work it out through unification.
Sasuke Im guessing keeps seeing the cycle of Hokage doing anything to protect the village even if that means hurting it's people. Sasuke remembered his brother doing the same, but his brother in the end realized he should have told Sasuke and changed the clan though words and feelings and actions and not by just killing the whole clan while letting him take all the blame. The part where Sasuke has his eyes closed thinking of all the things his brother told him this, and the 2nd and 3rd telling him about the clan. Of the past, they were trying to do the right thing but going about it the wrong way.
Each of the Hokages and Itachi all wanted to protect the Leaf, they did so through violence and manipulation. The first promised Madara something that he couldnt give. The 2nd couldnt get rid of his racism even when the other clans tried to show they could be unified. The 3rd let Danzo take care of the "dark sides" of the protection (Assassinations, etc, of upstarts). The 4ths only bad is he died before accomplishing anything.
Sasuke knew Itachi died defending the Leaf thinking it was only because he was ordered to. After talking to Itachi he realized he did it to protect Sasuke from the racism in the Leaf, and from the clans planned Coup de ta. But did so without taking Sasukes feelings into consideration.
I dont remember seeing 10 tails destroy the Konoha, It was partially destroyed by Nagato, but there may have been a small time gap between Naruto winning and the War starting, where they partially rebuilt.
Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
Did Itachi talk to Sasuke again after he was reanimated? Maybe he decided to use that Mind-Control Sharingan on Sasuke anyway.
And didn't Itachi himself say that Sasuke is too easily manipulated?
I think he was saying your letting your emotions be controlled, aka revenge. Yes they were together to fight Kabuto, thats when Itachi told him he didnt Kill the clan to protect the Leaf as so much as protect Sasuke.
Bean, what translation are you reading? Because mine was noticably bad, so I think that might have had something to do with my impression of Madara.
Just looked it up. I was wrong about Konoha, I was referring to the 10 tails destroying the Allied Forces HQ, which were apparently near the hidden Cloud.
Ussually I read w/e is on Manga panda or Manga Reader since they come out first. If something doesnt make sense I wait til Manga Stream puts up their version later in the day. They usually have a better translation and less errors, and better context. Most of the time I dont have to use Manga Stream, but sometimes I do to double check.
So I really wouldn't be surprised if Eclipse being used as a cannon is what drags in the dragons in the first place, but I guess everyone is expecting that, right?
Winner.
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So a Japanese artist did a large version of those One Piece/Real Life comparisons you see at the end of manga scans. I have to say that some of the ones that weren't covered before are pretty close, such as Lucci being based on a young Harvey Keitel.
"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
New Zetman out, unfortunately it's been soo long that I've almost forgotten just what the story was about. 31 pages, with not that much happening, hopefully the next one won't take so long. (although, I can always just learn Japanese and get the originals)
Katakana are used only to spell out foreign words in a thick, crippling Japanese accent, so that you'll have no idea what you're saying even though it's in English.
The method I use for katakana words is read it slowly until I figure out what english word it's supposed to be, and then say it with a stereotypical japanese accent. You're @#%^ed when it's a loan word from a different language like german or something though. エレベーター, eh, eh reh bay, eh reh bay taaah.... elevator... EREBEHTAAH.
This should probably beat monkey + girl = carburetor for you, since it's actually true: Female + Child = to like (verb); 女+åï¼å¥½ Female + Female + Female = Rape, or @#%^ing; 女x3ï¼å§¦
"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
Okay, let's see if we can map this. It was explained after the Aizen arc that a Hollow attacking humans makes their children into Fullbringers, and it seems that Aizen was creating ZombieHollows that infect regular and/or spiritual beings into becoming Hollows themselves. Which seems to remain in the system and can be transferred to future children. However, the Quincys seem to know about that infection which is why Uryu's mom narked on Ichimom. Ichidad doesn't seem to be aware of it so it isn't known to (IE: Hidden:) to the Shinigamis. Of course, Urahara knows about it, but he's @#%^in' Layla Miller (Power: "I know stuff.") so that certainly doesn't account for anything. The Hollow that attacked Masaki looks remarkably like Ichigo's Bankai/Hollow form, which would make sense if all the Vizards looked similar since they all pretty much infected each other if we're following this train of thought. Aizen is there with Plot Armor so no one knows. I miss anything Bean?
I can't wait for Bellamy vs Luffy 2.0. I'm sure Bellamy has been upgraded, or it won't be interesting at all considering Luffy's increases. Bell will probably talk about the atrocities he committed in Skypea which will **** off Luffy, again, and lead to him being curb stomped again. 1.0 was an amusing fight. I don't believe this will be the final battle, though.
Highlight of the week. See below.
Edited, Apr 17th 2013 10:31am by lolgaxe
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"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
I don't see any issues with what you say. I think thought the Quincies know about Hollow attacking humans "taints" the blood and causes Fullbrings maybe, while the Shinigami dont? (The maid remarked there was riestu left on the wounds and she had to take Misaki to the Elders to be purified?) I think being a Dead shinigami + Hollow is causing the mutation,I mean the Elder Mother chick was freaked out when it happened.(She wasnt expecting the Hollow hole to show up)
As for the Vizards being all different, I think they are different, remember they are Alive Shinigami that were turned into Hollows. White, was a dead shinigami turned into a hollow.
From what I may gather Aizen didnt care about Fullbringers probably because they are so weak, or most Shinigami dont even know how FullBringers are made. I mean they knew one guy before Ichigo/Chad/Orihime, that was a human with any special powers.
I dont know I could be wrong. Just kind o guessing here.
"We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." — James D. Nicoll
Okay, let's see if we can map this. It was explained after the Aizen arc that a Hollow attacking humans makes their children into Fullbringers, and it seems that Aizen was creating ZombieHollows that infect regular and/or spiritual beings into becoming Hollows themselves. Which seems to remain in the system and can be transferred to future children. However, the Quincys seem to know about that infection which is why Uryu's mom narked on Ichimom. Ichidad doesn't seem to be aware of it so it isn't known to (IE: Hidden:) to the Shinigamis. Of course, Urahara knows about it, but he's @#%^in' Layla Miller (Power: "I know stuff.") so that certainly doesn't account for anything. The Hollow that attacked Masaki looks remarkably like Ichigo's Bankai/Hollow form, which would make sense if all the Vizards looked similar since they all pretty much infected each other if we're following this train of thought. Aizen is there with Plot Armor so no one knows. I miss anything Bean?
I can't wait for Bellamy vs Luffy 2.0. I'm sure Bellamy has been upgraded, or it won't be interesting at all considering Luffy's increases. Bell will probably talk about the atrocities he committed in Skypea which will **** off Luffy, again, and lead to him being curb stomped again. 1.0 was an amusing fight. I don't believe this will be the final battle, though.