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#1 Sep 18 2009 at 10:04 AM Rating: Good
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I love Marvel Comics. I love zombies. I'm a huge Spider-Man and Deadpool fan. All these elements exist within the Marvel Zombies storylines. Which, in theory, should mean I'm ecstatic whenever another comic is released. But I'm not. Dear god just let the damn angle END already. I feel its getting worse than Civil War was, and that was a severe kick to the teeth. Don't get me wrong, a few panels make me chuckle. Like I said: Zombies, Spider-Man, and Deadpool. It just doesn't do it for me any more.

/rant off

To cross-media this, Spidy and Deadpool in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 is hella fun. I can't believe a game based off Civil War is actually fun to play.

Edited, Sep 18th 2009 2:05pm by lolgaxe
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#2 Sep 18 2009 at 8:57 PM Rating: Good
I liked Civil War, & Zombies was good when Kirkman was writing it.

Not so much anymore.

But the current Arc of Deadpool where he found his zombie head & is running around with it is pretty funny.
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#3 Sep 18 2009 at 9:26 PM Rating: Good
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I like the idea of it, and it was fun at first, but it should have stayed as a fun one-shot. Turning it into an actual thing kind of ruined the concept imo.
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#4 Sep 18 2009 at 9:47 PM Rating: Decent
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it started out good but they should have let it die. The cross with morbius and what not, sucked.
#5 Sep 19 2009 at 6:00 PM Rating: Good
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Omegavegeta wrote:
I liked Civil War,
Really? While the premise was interesting, I thought it was unnecessarily long, and while Spider-Man was a key element to the storyline, how it ended for him was really, really infuriating. Which is what I feel is happening to Marvel Zombies. It's overstaying its welcome. Though, Deadpool + Zombie Deadpool head has its moments.
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#6 Sep 19 2009 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
I used to love Marvel Zombies, haven't touched it since Machine Man was in it. Not that I hate MM or anything, but it's gotten so old now. The exact opposite of "leave them wanting more".

As for Civil War I really need to dig those things out again. All I remember is Clor, dead Cap, and the Initiative.

I'm digging the Storm/Torch fusion in MUA2, it's epic to me every time I see it.
#7 Sep 21 2009 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
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While the premise was interesting, I thought it was unnecessarily long, and while Spider-Man was a key element to the storyline, how it ended for him was really, really infuriating.


I liked Spidey pretty much up until One More Day, which I too found infuriating if that's what you're referring too.

The Back in Black arc, beforehand (Especially when Spidey fights the Kingpin), as well as the best friends with Tony stuffs was decent though. However, now that we're on the other side of One More Day, I find myself picking up the occasional ASM & enjoying it, for the most part.
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#8 Sep 22 2009 at 3:36 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, One Last Day was probably the biggest pile of puke. I did enjoy the Spidy vs. Kingpin part, but the Tony x Spidy buddy thing is kind of confusing now. I mean, after One Last Day, does that mean none of that happened? And what the hell is up with the Vulture? I don't dislike the new stuff, but its kind of ... and yes I'm overusing the word here, but confusing.

Especially the whole Mary Jane thing. So ... she knows he's Spidy? Does Aunt May? God, wtf is going on ...

Edited, Sep 22nd 2009 9:01am by lolgaxe
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#9 Sep 22 2009 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
lolgaxe wrote:
Yeah, One Last Day was probably the biggest pile of puke. I did enjoy the Spidy vs. Kingpin part, but the Tony x Spidy buddy thing is kind of confusing now. I mean, after One Last Day, does that mean none of that happened? And what the hell is up with the Vulture? I don't dislike the new stuff, but its kind of ... and yes I'm overusing the word here, but confusing.

Especially the whole Mary Jane thing. So ... she knows he's Spidy? Does Aunt May? God, wtf is going on ...

Edited, Sep 22nd 2009 9:01am by lolgaxe


I'm still waiting to find out what she promised the devil in exchange for this deal. I thought it was the Jackpot thing but that turned out to be wishful thinking.
#10 Sep 22 2009 at 8:46 PM Rating: Good
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I'm still waiting to find out what she promised the devil in exchange for this deal. I thought it was the Jackpot thing but that turned out to be wishful thinking.


From what I understand, they traded their marriage for Aunt May's life. Now, due to the deal, no one now knows that Peter is Spidey unless he told them after One More Day. The Tony/Peter friendship was just that, a friendship between the two of them & "magic" is keeping anyone else (Including Daredevil in ASM #600) from being able to tell who he is, even with the ability to do so.

I think just the New Avenger's & the Fantastic Four know who he is now.

I dunno if MJ knows Peter is Spidey or not, just that they almost got married.

What I don't understand, & this will sound dated, is how One More Day reconciles with the death & return of Norman Osborne (AKA the Green Goblin). Honestly, post One More Day I really like the whole Norman Osborn Directer of HAMMER thing, but at the same time Osborne's return was a great way to end the whole Clone Saga, which made the Clone Saga somehow suck less with Norman orchestrating it all.

But he couldn't of done so without knowing who Peter was.

Meh, he probably "forgot" like back when he used too in the early days. One day he knew, one day he didn't.
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#11 Sep 22 2009 at 9:06 PM Rating: Good
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And this is why I've stopped following most Marvel comics for now. I'm waiting for them to get back out of stupid mode.

The most interesting people these days are the ones who are mostly unaffected by the rest of the world (Runaways, NYX, etc.)
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#12 Sep 23 2009 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
Omegavegeta wrote:
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I'm still waiting to find out what she promised the devil in exchange for this deal. I thought it was the Jackpot thing but that turned out to be wishful thinking.


From what I understand, they traded their marriage for Aunt May's life. Now, due to the deal, no one now knows that Peter is Spidey unless he told them after One More Day. The Tony/Peter friendship was just that, a friendship between the two of them & "magic" is keeping anyone else (Including Daredevil in ASM #600) from being able to tell who he is, even with the ability to do so.

I think just the New Avenger's & the Fantastic Four know who he is now.

I dunno if MJ knows Peter is Spidey or not, just that they almost got married.

What I don't understand, & this will sound dated, is how One More Day reconciles with the death & return of Norman Osborne (AKA the Green Goblin). Honestly, post One More Day I really like the whole Norman Osborn Directer of HAMMER thing, but at the same time Osborne's return was a great way to end the whole Clone Saga, which made the Clone Saga somehow suck less with Norman orchestrating it all.

But he couldn't of done so without knowing who Peter was.

Meh, he probably "forgot" like back when he used too in the early days. One day he knew, one day he didn't.

Tomorrow I'll dig out that issue because I think she gave up something extra. Maybe I misunderstood it though. I'd do it now but there's a dead roach in one of those boxes and I need my strength to face that again :D

The New Avenger's reveal blew me away when I read it. He literally goes through Hell (at least one of it's agents anyway) to get to this point and then he just goes ahead and reveals himself to people he just met for giggles. After all this whining earlier about he can't reveal himself to ANYONE because of the horrible consequences.

I think they are eventually going to explain how everything happened and whatnot, that and the book coming out 3 times a week may be the only reason I still read it.
#13 Sep 24 2009 at 4:04 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry for the massive amount of spoiler text here, folks. I love discussing Spider-Man, and I don't want to give away anything that people might want to know about themselves, so you'll have to excuse me.

She whispered something that has yet to be revealed. The original deal as far as I remember was that, in exchange for Aunt May's life, Mephisto takes Peter's and Mary Janes' marriage. Along with the deal, Peter's "genie" is put back in the bottle, sort of speak. His secret identity became secret to everyone (except MJ ...) again. So everyone to knew who he was suddenly didn't. I think that was the extra deal which MJ whispers to Mephisto.

So far, I'm not sure it has been officially revealed what the whispering was about, or if it was something else entirely. Personally, I think it has either to do with Jackpot, who I still think is Mary Jane (How can it NOT be?!), or something else. The thing about the previously mentioned secret identity erasure is that it doesn't seem to be "complete." The thing is, when he does reveal himself, people suddenly get the memories of him back. He's done it twice so far, once for the Fantastic Four and again for the underground "New" Avengers. Now, the thing is before he revealed himself to FF, they were suspicious of him; They felt like they knew who he was but it was just out of their reach. Also, Peter seemed to know what their reaction was going to be right before he revealed himself. (which makes me think I missed something here, or got the order a little mixed up) Then, when he finally did show himself, Sue Richards was like "Oh, hi Peter." Then, when he offered to reveal himself to Daredevil, DD refused him, stating that even his enhanced senses couldn't detect who Spider-Man really was, like he was somehow shielded from them. The thing is, the last two or three issues have hinted, but not straight up said that Mary Jane knows that Peter is Spidy.

Finally, the last thing I remember about Norman Osborn was when he was trying to find some artifacts to gain Ultimate Power, along with four or five other people. It was some gamble type thing that gave different things to each of the people. At one point he thought he had obtained Ultimate Power, but what he had gotten was Insanity; some girl got Ultimate Power, and became the new "Spider-Woman/Girl." Another loose thread ... but I guess Norman got better from being completely catatonic insane.

Pity my geekness. Smiley: laugh
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#14 Sep 24 2009 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
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some girl got Ultimate Power, and became the new "Spider-Woman/Girl." Another loose thread ...

That's not really a loose thread. The girl is Mattie Franklin. She fought a some people as Spider Woman, was in a few issues of Alias, and then joined Excelsior/Loners.
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#15 Sep 24 2009 at 9:22 PM Rating: Decent
lolgaxe wrote:

So far, I'm not sure it has been officially revealed what the whispering was about, or if it was something else entirely. Personally, I think it has either to do with Jackpot, who I still think is Mary Jane (How can it NOT be?!), or something else.


Your not gonna find someone who wants Jackpot to be Mary Jane more then me but I think that's pretty much a no go at this point. IIRC Jackpot passed Mary Jane at an airport and had a little convo with her (though I'll grant you that was a 'fake' Jackpot).

Then there's the whole Sarah Ehret reveal in the annual and the new mini series she's supposed to be in coming out soonish.

We'll see in 2010 I suppose but it doesn't look good. (Neither does the new costume :D)
#16 Sep 25 2009 at 9:10 PM Rating: Good
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Finally, the last thing I remember about Norman Osborn was when he was trying to find some artifacts to gain Ultimate Power, along with four or five other people. It was some gamble type thing that gave different things to each of the people. At one point he thought he had obtained Ultimate Power, but what he had gotten was Insanity; some girl got Ultimate Power, and became the new "Spider-Woman/Girl." Another loose thread ... but I guess Norman got better from being completely catatonic insane


That whole "Ultimate Power" thing was BS in relation to Aunt May, if only because ASM #400 where Aunt May "dies", made me cry like a baby. Ret-conning that issue & having the ASM #400 Aunt May be a clone Norman put there to further ***** with Peter was a cop-out.

I guess the genie would have been back in the bottle after Norman "won" insanity, but if I recall Norman did know who Peter was again during the "Gwen & Norman had twins together" debacle during JMS' run.
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#17 Sep 26 2009 at 1:36 AM Rating: Good
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Peter Parker: Clone Magnet.

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MJ not Jackpot
I think I might have missed those clues. I thought that the "real name" she gave was just a lie to Spidy because she still had her memories and Peter didn't, and she didn't want him to know. Then again, after things like The Clone Saga and Maximum Carnage, I've been trying REALLY hard to avoid branching out from the main ASM comics, so I might have missed the other clues or the down right answers.

Then again, Aunt May has died like five times, and now she's on a honeymoon with JJJ's dad ... like Marvel can keep a story straight. Maybe she's actually a zombie.
Omegavegeta wrote:
I guess the genie would have been back in the bottle after Norman "won" insanity, but if I recall Norman did know who Peter was again during the "Gwen & Norman had twins together" debacle during JMS' run.
I think part of that was more of a "things set in motion" sort of deal. He wasn't really directly involved with that. "Even though you're gone, you're still messing with me." I could be wrong, and I'd reread it if I could remember which issues/comics they were in if I could remember.

Edit: I disliked the Twin Saga, I guess we can call it -- I also can't believe they @#%^ing did it again recently, but this time with Harry's girl ... Smiley: motz

Edited, Sep 26th 2009 5:37am by lolgaxe
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#18 Sep 26 2009 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
I picked up ASM 605 & 606 this week, but as I had missed 3 weeks got to them today, & MJ does indeed remember that Peter is Spidey. What I'm not 100% sure of though, is if Peter knows that she knows.

Anyhoo, I think one of the better things to happen post One More Day is that the Spidey story is pretty much being told straight through in ASM. Unfortunately, this has lead to strong sales & Web Of Spider-Man is getting launched next month.

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I wasn't around for the original "Death of Gwen", but even I was pissed that JMS would crap all over cannon like that. It's sad too, because I actually loved the whole "Did the Spider Choose Peter?" thing with Ezykial & Morlun.

But The Other did suck balls.

Edited, Sep 26th 2009 7:56pm by Omegavegeta
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#19 Sep 26 2009 at 6:18 PM Rating: Decent
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And this is why I've stopped following most Marvel comics for now. I'm waiting for them to get back out of stupid mode.

The most interesting people these days are the ones who are mostly unaffected by the rest of the world (Runaways, NYX, etc.)


I LOVE those two. NYX introduced X23 didnt it? I liked X better when she was with Kiden and crew
#20 Oct 01 2009 at 4:29 AM Rating: Good
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X23 is cute in her stoic "I'm going to raep your face with Snikt" mentality.

Just to bump this back up, and actually (for once in my posting life) go back to the topic, the latest Marvel Zombies just ended, and it might have been a dumber twist than One Last Day, if that is at all possible. On side note, from a logical stand point that also means no more Marvel Zombies. But, this is a comic book, after all, so I won't hold my breath on that.

And I miss Ezykial. I kind of hope, but highly doubt, they go back to exploring the mystic aspect of Spider-Man. Obviously it won't involve Zeke, but you know what I mean. I managed to read all of ASM, and I can't think of any point where I found myself laughing as much as during those storylines. For example:

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#21 Oct 02 2009 at 3:15 AM Rating: Good
It's certainly one of the better arcs on ASM that I can remember and had a consistent creative team throughout.

And the "black" issue, post 9/11, was pretty moving.
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