Aripyanfar wrote:
It seems a lot of people liked this. But I really respect Allegory as a poster, and if he didn't like it, I am not so inclined to give it a try.
I'm not so firm in the belief that no one can enjoy it, because obviously people do. It's just that it can
only be enjoyed as anime bullshiz. It can
only be enjoyed as "so bad it's good." If it isn't working for you from that angle--which it largely didn't for me--then it won't work for you at all.
I'd rather have a show like Princess Tutu or Revolutionary Girl Utena that can be appreciated both from a 100% anime bullshiz view point and as a serious story with actual depth. If you don't find one angle interesting, then it offers you another.
Vataro wrote:
And honestly, Allegory doesn't like Bioware games, so you have to take his opinion with a grain of salt.
Salt has long been a very valuable commodity, and so I appreciate the compliment.
Aripyanfar wrote:
I like lots of action and magic. But I also want plot or character development. Silliness drives me up the wall. A cast entirely populated by immature characters drives me up the wall. I like romance, but harem anime where sexual tension is NEVER EVER resolved between any of the characters drive me up the wall. I can live without sex, but I like sex. But then I've had a hard time finding "adult" material that doesn't go into extreme kinky, horror or rape stuff. And that stuff can be ever so tiresome because it often devolves into shallow pornography instead of advancing a plot or character development.
I'm not sure what you've seen before so I'll take a few pot shots.
--Escaflowne. A good amount of action and magic. The fights are well designed in that you feel the weight and sluggishness of what giant mecha combat would be like. Plenty of romance, as the series is somewhat of a shounen/shoujo hybrid, and definitely nothing like a harem. The plot was written to be a 52 episode long series, but due to budget constraints had to be reduced down to 39 episodes, which gives the series a compact and epic feel to it. One of my favorite shows.
--Revolutionary Girl Utena. Theres about one fight every other episode, though the fights are more allegories of personal struggles. The first Juri fight I found to be amazing. There's romance and sex, but definitely not pornography. Definitely strong character growth. The series can be highly repetitive though, as each mini arc follows a very standard format. There's also a lot of reusing certain sequences.
Edited, Apr 7th 2011 4:11pm by Allegory