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It's ok. You do not have to reveal yourself if that is something that tickles your fancy. It was you and grizz that kept this thread going by going off topic to begin with, which was the reason taht i posted, and others for that matter. I'm also glad that you only 'care' to 'read' only some posts and that you pick certain posts to respond to. i ask you, read it if you really and truely havent, and give me feedback, because i think that you 'didnt read it' because you cannot say anything about it to respond to me, and if you come back with a resonable statement and have some solid ground about it, then i applaud you and i will try to respond to whatever you say about it to the best of my ability because i love to argue with people who have no ground support, because that, my friend, tickles my fancy.

Hehehehe...

Lets see...you make it sound like the LS is so generous that even new people have a fair oppurtunity to get items just like the old ones have. How funny. Too bad that the only Rare/EX item you mentioned having for your 75 BLM is the only one that benfits it. Everything else is crafted: Iqgira, Black Cloak, Staves, etc. or drops off of a monster that a group of 3 high-level friends could solo easily. O-Hat does require an alliance, because Hakutaku is no pansy. Too bad that everything else for your 75 THF is also crafted: Dragon Armor, etc. or drops off of supremely easy mobs, or is easy enough to obtain with 3 friends as well. So don't try to praise your LS for *appearing* to care about the new people...I don't think there is much of a requisite time of being in the LS to get something crafted for you to use.

Also, I fail to see how an HNM/Sky LS leader is any different than a Garrison LS leader, or a Mission LS leader, or an ENM LS leader, or even a social LS leader. All of these LSs experience greedy morons, purposely destructive idiots, and just plain @ssholes. It doesn't take any special strength to deal with these problems, no matter how many you need to deal with. The GMs do this 100s of times, DAILY...Stellar seems like such a trooper now doesn't he? He does a few times a day what others do hundreds of times. Lets not build Stellar up for doing what countless people do on a daily basis, please...it isn't impressive and it isn't like he is a hero for doing it.

I don't really know Stellar, nor do I care too. I have really good judgement in people and since I had ever seen him and spoken with him he seemed like an @ss. He has never ever done anything to make me think otherwise, and all of these immature and unreasonable responses from him on this board don't help him seem kind or caring or mature.

This publicity for Solstice is probably embarrassing...I can't imagine feeling very happy with my LS when the leader is making your LS seem like it is full of @ssheads. A leader, especially for a Sky/HNM/Dynamis LS, needs to be someone you can respect, care about, and hope to rely on. Judging from Stellar's posts in this thread (and others) he just comes across like a d1ckhead...him acting the way he does isn't going to do anything but deter possible members from wanting to join because the leader is an @ss.

Hmmm...

nvm, you just proved yourself to be a big, fat troll. congrats! this thread can die now.

Edited, Sat Aug 20 15:41:18 2005 by reximus

You're still making **** up as you go along for the sake of "getting a rise" out of people, and that's tantamount to trolling. You have no idea what you're talking about, refuse to actually read the facts posted here, and act childish then call us the same. Acting like a jerk and getting a rise out of someone, then calling them immature for reacting makes you feel like a man I guess.

wtf kind of third-grade insult is @sshead anyway?


And people wonder why alla forums are such a ***********

I mean, I pretty much don't think I trolled in regard to Gaucho's post. I read his "essay" and responded like he requested. Opinions are fair-game in discussions and reactions as are facts. Using logic also works well.

I didn't type anything to Gaucho with the intent to get him pissed. If it happens, it happens...but the intention is not there. He told me to read his post and then respond. Which I did...

I don't remember him asking me to continue wasting my time arguing with you about my previous intentions in this thread.

While you may feel that I am pulling stuff out of my ***...if you look logically, all of my points will make sense (I am referring here to the points I made regarding my response to Gaucho's post...not the points I made when I was bored and trolling). I am not basing every single thing that I say on opinions about Stellar or biases against whomever it is that is being discussed. Kthx

Edited, Sat Aug 20 16:27:59 2005 by Ubernerd

except, his thief isn't 75, and neither is his blm for that matter. Either way, it seems more like you're making up your own facts rather than saying something true.

As for new members having equal opportunity at items, rumple got his rostrum pumps before anybody in the ls did (was first to go, in other words) after being in ls for only a couple of days. Happens with tons of stuff, just using him as one example since he's the star of this lovely thread. However nobody in ls felt he deserved this particular piece of equipment, he felt otherwise, and left. Again, you really don't know all of the facts, and just because someone has nice stuff they got on their own, doesn't mean they're greedy and abusing any kind of power they have. Like Gaucho said, he's really only gotten one thing out of his whole stay with us, he didn't use the LS in any way, shape, or form to get a dragon harness, so I don't see how that argument of yours makes any sense. He camped his thief knife, he made his own gil, none of this has anything to do with the LS or its leadership. So forgive me for assuming your totally inaccurate "facts" were yet more attempts at trolling.

uh, takes an alliance to kill gods to get zenith mitts abjuration, same as hecatomb harness... thus making them impossible to get on your own. But being that your highest job is probably level 55 I bet you didn't know that. GG

Gaucho hasn't been 75 blm in months and months and months, figured you'd actually know that since you seem to know everything about us. He was clearly refering to all the items you said could be purchased

Everything else is crafted: Iqgira, Black Cloak, Staves, etc. or drops off of a monster that a group of 3 high-level friends could solo easily... blahblahblah garbage garbage garbage... Too bad that everything else for your 75 THF is also crafted: Dragon Armor, etc

Read your own stupid posts at the least, even if you choose to ignore everyone else's.

rofl ok im not even reading all the threads im just commenting on ubernerd for saying stellar only does stuff b/c V is helping.. thats a load of @#%^ing bull sh*t.. like i said in my first and only thread ur not in the ls so how the @#%^ do u kno what they do? and if ur gonna say that thing u said b4 how "i might be in the ls but blah blah blah" u kno that ur not b/c of waht u @#%^ing posted here "I don't really know Stellar, nor do I care too. I have really good judgement in people and since I had ever seen him and spoken with him he seemed like an @ss. He has never ever done anything to make me think otherwise, and all of these immature and unreasonable responses from him on this board don't help him seem kind or caring or mature." b/c if u were in the ls u would realize he helps a lot of ppl and is a rly nice guy.. and he does help even if V isnt there... and if they are helping together then who gives a @#%^ how the hell can u tell why stellar is helping someone with something.. all this sh*t u say about our leaders and our ls is all just coming our of ur own personal judgment but its still coming out of ur *** b/c ur not in the ls so rly u dont have much to base ur opinions on... so plz just stfu and lets end this thread

Mine braen hurtz nuw...ouch...kinda funny that the only intelligently worded stuff came from the copy and pastes of my exact quotes. Thanks for letting me know my English skills are really good by letting me compare them to that crap you seem to call grammar. And by the way, I didn't even say that he ONLY helps when Vertoria does... Guess I'm not the only one who needs to read posts, eh Rexy? ^_^

Anyway, I can still be in a LS and still think a guy is a ******** even though he helps others. If he does nice things for one guy and doesn't give a rats *** about another, do you think the other guy is going to be very pleased with the helper even though he is nice? Nope. You also don't have to know your LS leaders either...I was once in a LS where the leader wasn't present very often due to work and I didn't know him very well. Omg, guess I couldn't be in a LS then, considering I didn't know/like the LS leader.

Misunderstanding someone's reply (because I only mentioned *specifically* two items...the others were just examples...not part of the discussion) happens. I did read my own post, you know, considering I typed it.

And I don't ever remember saying that I said Gaucho had been in BLM form anytime recently. I was just saying I knew he had that job at 75. Whoamg...the time during which he was last set as BLM main is really really pertinent to a discussion involving items.

Anyway, I would still like to hear what you have to say regarding that other stuff I said. So far you have defended your items...but you have nothing else to say about Stellar? Is it possible you've put him on a pedestal that is a bit too high for him? That's what it sounds like to me ^^

Edited, Sat Aug 20 20:20:21 2005 by Ubernerd

Edited, Sat Aug 20 20:24:26 2005 by Ubernerd

I have had 75 blm, lost it, lost 74 also, 73 now, but havent had the honor of 75 thief yet, plan to soon hopefully. I said the 2 rare/ex tiems as the ones i got help getting, the 'other' items u mentioned were also dragon harness, cloak, staves, etc so thats more than '2', i mean i got those itemse on my own time by getting lucky on a few NMs and farming to have enough money to buy them, and fyi, i only have 3 staves, none HQ, and i lack a weskit currently, used to have one, because i tend to pour my money towards thief, but really, i dont know why you pulled my personal character into it, i was only making myself an 'example' in my 'essay' that requires a 'thesis' and a few 'supporting elements' in the 'body' of the 'essay' to try and 'convey' my 'point', but i dont have a problem talking about myself, if thats what you want to do. (if you didn't catch it, my 'thesis' maybe wasn't clear to you because you mainly focused on me, not stellar, but anyway it was about people going all over LS leaders (in this case Stellar) and blame them for many pointless things and tend to go off into different topics (in this case you), i was basically just backing him up because people like you make supid comments about him in a post such as this.)

But really, if you dont care to know stellar, then that's your fault for not giving him a chance.

I hope this thread ends here because this is getting pointless and out of topic, it started with someone leaving ebcause he didnt get something, and its now at me talking about myself? kind of weird dont u think? dont blame me, i wouldnt have posted if it ended awhile back.

If you want to continue this conversation (which i am all in favor of), reveal yourself, because there is really no point in arguing when i cant point my finger at who you really are, which can get difficult when i try to create these 'essays'. If you dont want to reveal yourself, end the conversation because the more you say without saying who you are, the more pointless it becomes. I'm not going to respond anymore unless you reveal yourself because i dont like talking to faceless text.

On a final note about you revealing yourself, personally, i dont care who you are, no do i care if i know or not, but i dont like going into a great detailed conversation with somebody that doesnt want to say who he is. So, if you want to continue, say who you are, if not, ill see you around.

Edit: appears that you revealed yourself the second i posted? if you want to continue, make another statement i guess, i really don't know who plethy is if that is who you are.

Edited, Sat Aug 20 21:16:36 2005 by Gaucho

I didn't reveal myself. I haven't really minded since the beginning to stay anonymous, but I figured it would be fun to see how long it would be until Mike would blurt it all out.

I'm surprised he lasted 3 days. Amazed, actually.

Anywho, you seemed to have, you know, missed about like 3/4s of my post. I answered all 3 of your questions from your post that was 'geared' toward Grizz. You seemed to have missed the other several paragraphs because there was one that focused on you. Though, I was only using you as a mere example, nothing to be more important than such.

I have already established that you let others go before you...very noble...but that really hasn't kept you from getting everything else you've needed for your characters, has it? You make it sound like you have given up all sorts of gear that was necessary for you, and that you gave it to others because you are just too generous for words. Could it be that perhaps you didn't even NEED the gear so it was ok for you to pass it along, because you were adequately equipped in all of your crafted equipment?

Hmmmm...

Also, I would have tried giving Stellar a chance, but he said a lot of things that made him seem very unapproachable. Not to mention I got kicked out of Exodus soon after the merger for joking around with my friend too much (I already apologized to Vert for all of this, which was met with just a dismissive 'thanks' and nothing more) but then, I suppose the straw that broke the camels back, was I went against Vertoria and stood up for myself when she made a comment that implied something untrue...yup...too cool...

Anyway...maybe you'd like to read the rest of my post and deal with those portions...because your lack of responses is rather disheartening.

fyi mike didn't blurt anything

and from the sounds of it, (though I would hope it isn't true) but if you ******* at him long enough to take you back, then please give Nikemike my condolences.

Edited, Sat Aug 20 21:39:01 2005 by reximus

I guess this thread has dwindled down finally. On side note, I have only recently gotten my thief 'good' gear, so yes, i did need some items for both jobs for a very long time, and by my gimped blm, i still do, but i'm not trying to make myself look cool or 'noble', because you wouldn't know anything about this if you or grizz didnt post in the first place, just stating facts to present to you.

I have heard that you are a brat and have distaste for many people, being as the only reason you posted because you were kicked from exodus because of your behavior(hardly 'joking' by many former members of exodus), but then again, i havent given you a chance, so i'm not going to judge you, so i really dont want to argue with you anymore, it was great not knowing who you were for awhile, in hopes that i actually knew you to argue with, but now maybe i wish i didnt kno who u really were, because i really dont kno who Plethy is to argue with, same place where we started.

I'll see you around, Plethy, maybe we can pt sometime and settle our differences and get to know eachother, if that's what you want to do.