Hokuten Knights looking for all kinds of membersFollow

So hidden that friends get 200 points be4 the tipical player who assists to every event?

lalala, <take care>

I do believe our members are competent enough that they would notice a certain group of people getting the drops. Linkshells that play favorites, don't get to keep the core members that make everything possible.

This is not an HNM LS. We are a mission based LS, looking for members who like to help other members. We have and do camp minor HNM, such as ie, Joyeuse, we are not limited to just missions and quests/help, but at the same time we will not be taking ToD on every HNM to camp it every day, that's not our goal.

I'm not so sure why everyone is so judgemental, just as Genos has said, members would notice if their is preferance to another player. This was a recruitment post, not one to bash another LS. If you aren't looking for a new LS, why post.

There is no "deciding when and where to give preference to one member over another". Sack holders run the events and keep track. The reason other members do not see each others points is so you can't say go to 4 events in a row in which each time say you have 50 points, and every other member has 10, so you bid 11 on each run knowing you will get the item over them. Where as if the player that has 50 points, bids 7 points, and the 10 point player bids 8, they have the chance to win that item and will need to attend more events for another.

Each member will know their own points, and it will make it a bit more of a challenge and fun :). Hey, it's not like we're an HNM LS going for uber drops, this is for fun. When we go camp an NM for a friend/ls mate, they get the item, it's dependant on the situation.

Maybe this LS isn't for you, that's cool, we enjoy doing what we do, helping others is a lot of fun. Our LS members trust one another and if their was an issue, it would have already been addressed in house by another member. Since we started offering points for events, we frequently have more members showing up. :)

Edited, Jan 19th 2007 4:49pm by Mikeosis

there is alot of crap in this game, and alot of stealing, so you can probably how people can be negative.

I guess what they are saying, is why hide the points? Is there a reason for doing this, because i guess their notion is, if you are hiding it then there must be something to hide.

I can understand in teh sense that it maybe discouraging for some members to know they will not get anything for a very long time and they may stop helping and stop coming.

Thats where they are coming from i think.

Maybe this will help clear up why the points are hidden.

The way we bid items is that when an item drops, the players that want it send a bid in /t of how many points of theirs they want to spend on it to whoever is deemed organizer for that event. After each player sends in bids, the people who can actually use the item now (or very soon) are noted. Out of those people, whoever bid the highest number of points get that item, and the same number of points is deducted from their total. The winning bid amount is announced, along with who bid it.

The points are hidden so that a person can not bid the absolute minimum to get the item. Say you have 50 points, and can use the item, and there is only one other person who can use the item, and they have 20 points. You bid 21 points and are guaranteed the item, since the other person can only bid 20. This helps so that newer players can bid and win some auctions sooner rather than later. If the experienced player really wants the item, they will bid a higher number, allowing the newer members to not have to accumulate as many points. Also, if they really don't want the item, they can bid a minimal amount they believe it is worth to them, and may still win.

I hope that clears things up a bit for you.





No prob, just let us know :)

We have a few ppl lvling some new jobs at about the 45ish range, and may catch up with you soon. :)

I will join if you make me a sackholder. Hidden point system for non-sackholder = lick my ***.

Well, sorry if my comment was a bit rude or something, but it's the truth.

Hiding the points just make the whole LS idea untrusty, im not saying you're thieves or some crap like that but well, if things are clear like water there's no worry 'bout who lots more, if u have more points you lot for that, simple and clear.

The hidden points system fails from the start as some1 stated be4, but that's just for me, maybe you see it like other way.

<Take care>

(BTW, this is an outside comment from this thread, but Shuffles owns with his BST, just a side note :p)

/wave Shuffles from faulky.

Well, I think you guys are missing the whole points picture.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but your members know how much points they have, and know how much each events points are? So it would be very easy for each member to keep track of their own points. I guess what this linkshell is saying is worry about your own points, and if you really want that Joyeus or something like that, you will bid as many points you have as what you consider it worth. Sounds like it would prevent a lot of fighting between members (i.e. I don't necessarily want that, but I don't want XXX to have it for so few points, so I'm going to bid 35, since I know he only has 34). Sounds kind of like a silent aucton.

I'm sure it will work for some, and for those that it doesn't work for, they won't be there long. Good luck to you.

I think i understand by what you mean by hidden points.

Like Kamkam mentioned, you know your OWN pts, but everyone else's pts are hidden. So, say you got 65pts, and something drops that you want. You bid your 65 pts, if it's worth that much to you, and you wait for other bids. If someone happens to have 70 pts and out bids you, it's fair.

Atleast this LS tells you how things work. Sure, coming in as a new member you won't have many pts, if any. But like the members mentioned not EVERYONE shows up, or holds items in such high regard. If you show up, you build pts.

It's an open invitation..Atleast you don't have to put in your damn resume and sit around and wait to be "hired", like some of these other crooked LS's. An LS like this may change my views on getting into the "Endgame" scene when i'm ready.

I'm glad to see HK starting up again. You can trust Genos and Dargonesti, HK has been around since early 2003 at least. its probably been around longer than most current HNMLS. They're credible people in my opinion.