Should a white mage be required to Raise and Port ?Follow

Euniss,

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it was me who helped you with that. Got my WHM to 61, and i truly (/laugh) at people who ask/demand PLing. i can't fookeng STAND it when people ask it. if i'm bored, and someone's struggling in my LS to get, say, Thief to 15, i'll help out. but NOT if they ask me. it's gotta come from inside, the drive to help others.
WHM's have the power to help with ALOT of quests. get a MELEE to go with him, and those 2 can tackle most anything in the game related to helping others.
kind of off the topic, i know, but the PL issue bugs me.

No, whms don't HAVE to raise or tele...but it would be nice.

I've been in a pt and a member died and we needed a raise...and a whm with raise simply WALKED by us, saying 'pay me or no raise'. He wasn't in a hurry (a pt nearby paid him and he raised their member) and he wasn't on a chocobo. He just wanted gil - an outrageous amount. None of my pt had enough to foot the bill for how much he demanded.

If a whm can raise, has the time, and isn't riding a chocobo...it would be nice if they could help out. Maybe charge 100gil or whatever, but still...

As for teles...if a whm is going that way anyway, it would be nice of them to offer.

Though, I'm a whm who doesn't yet have raise or any of the tele-scrolls, so I haven't endured the tells and shouts. I'm just saying this from the point of view of someone in a pt who needs a raise or tele.

Well, a fair number of people seem to forget that a raise is useful -- and often even needful-- but you can get by without it. Certainly, if a WHM has the time (and is not in party or on the way to his or her party) AND is in the area (As opposed to, say, in East Ronfaure and you're rotting on the slopes of the Meriphataud Mountains) it's nice of him to do so-- and in general parlance, even encouraged and socially expected. S/He's not REQUIRED to do so... but refusing to raise a person when it is not inconvenient is expected, in general, of one.

OF course, there are people who do not understand the Idea of Conveinient. The other day, Norrain (the originator of this thread) and I were doing something more or less silly to riase my fame in Sandy and Bastok. (We also cornered the market on cabbage in Windy, but that's not the point I'm trying to make.) Everywhere we went, we rode chocobos-- until we hit Dem. Then Norrain decided he needed to go on foot-- because there were people who would need his help in the dunes, so he didn't want them to feel they couldn't ask for his aid while he was on a chocobo.

And some twit is trying to tell him his business. Arrgh.

On the matter of teleports, that is another thing entirely.

Teleporting is a luxury-- a method of rapid transportation, as opposed to chocobo, or running. (Personally, I LIKE running. More people to meet, more mobs to kill.) A raise could-- possibly-- if from an insane perspective-- be argued as a right.

A teleport is not, and is really only to be expected in Jueno... at 500 gil a head, and you better be ready to wait for the taxi to have a full cab (So to speak).

well.. yah, they spent that time ******** when they could have spent that time hiking if they couldnt find a tele...

I live on /anon generally anywhere but jeuno because I'm tired of raise II and tele requests. As far as teles unless I'm completely bored or extremely poor or I know the person I won't take up these requests because the 500/1k gil is so insignificant. As far as Raise II if I don't know you I won't go perform this unless theres a hefty reward, sorry I'm a money ho sometimes, if I know the person for tele or raise I won't charge generally and I never charge if its an LS member or on my friend's list. As far as raise II while I'm partying if its within 5 min of a walk, my party is ok with it and you are a whm or a close friend I'll do it, but if you have a rdm/brd/smn and you just want less of an exp loss, I won't do it because I hate how people invite rdm and brd or rdm and smn or whatever over a whm but expect me to be their raise *****...that's not how it works, you ran the risk when you didn't invite a whm, so my party's exp shouldn't have to suffer because of it.

AMEN! (and I'm not talking about the plural of A.M.A.N.....)

Barchiel
Resident Humper and Former WHM
Shiva

It doesn't surprise me that there aren't many WHM's responding to this thread. There are doubtless more than a few people who read Norrain's original post and then, to their shock, discover that the average WHM has a feeling, thinking, and motivated person on the other end... and that most of them do not consider themselves automatic raise machines and free taxi services.

I'm always impressed by those who find WHM a rewarding job-- I tried it and sadly, didn't quite have the same drive. But I praise the Goddess every day that there are people who DO have said drive (especially at the moment since I'm levelling a DRK in the gods-forsaken Dunes. You know, Dark Knight-- hit like thunder, tank like marshmallow.)

Perhaps some will come out from under the rocks they have been hiding under in shame and express a little appreciation... as I always attempt to do.

I like Magaralene's sig, I've never really thought about it but alot of mithras I know change jobs at the drop of the hat, ask me,terranova or kloe for all our job lvls and usually you get a "DAAAAAAAAAMN".

Anyways its not really anybodys fault, but people die,people need to get somewhere and people need help, but I have a hard time doing my own thing, and helping out friends as is, so I don't usually have time to help strangers as well, thus why I use /anon quite frequently.