A warning about an ls....Follow

I would just like to publically apologize to Ryu for being so inflammatory. I was angry, and I still have issues with some of the rules she has set forth for her linkshell. However, in posting such an articulate, well-worded response, she has reminded me of why it is so irritating that I can't be in EK in the first place. *sighs*

Hear hear!

Yeah! We're not some rude ppl if you actually meet us!

i've knon zephyrus since e was 52 and if he is in the l and has no problems they cant be that bad of people. When u join a ls of course people will ignore u they dont know u you have to earn there respect.

I though I should reply to this post because I am a EK member and I am the only person in the linkshell that is on about 20 hours out of the day... thus I see most everything that goes on. For those of you who do not know, my character is played by 2 individuals that is why we have so many hours a day on the game. This is how this "merger" came to be... Ryu was on for about 5 minutes to introduce SOB leader and said that he will be inviting "some" of his members to this linkshell then she /logoff then in about an hour or so there was about 50 new people added to the linkshell... nobody was really warned about anyone being invited... thus the confusion and mayhem when most EK member came on and saw all these new members. The way I interpreted this “merger” was that only a few member were going to be added at first then the rest of the members a little later when Ryu could explain to the rest of the current linkshell mebers what was going on. When some members came on that day and found all these new members in the linkshell they assumed something was wrong. And as we know what assuming can do “it makes an A$$ out of u and me”. Thing got way out of proportion but eventually calmed down after people got to know one another and got use to each other. I personally got tells from many EK members that they did not like having all these new people, but after a few days they changed there minds and saw them as a asset to the linkshell and made some new friends/party buddies. I was busy crafting or farming and did not see when someone got kicked for no apparent reason. But I’m sure whatever leader kicked them thought they had an apparent reason for doing so. I personally have never kicked anyone from the linkshell nor would I ever kick anyone from the linkshell without discussing the situation with the Ryu and the rest of the leaders, but that is just how I am. I am one of the first members of EK and this linkshell has always been one to help a friend in need.

Now to address some of the comments said in the above post.

Quote from Lienna “I feel sorry for anyone who ends up in your ls, since they will likely be treated like inferior sh*t like most of us were”… When these new members came in and were higher lvl then a lot of the members in EK, some EK members were intimidated by the fact that there were now higher members in the linkshell with the same jobs as them. But after a few days they realized how much they could learn and benefit by having a member in the linkshell that was the same job but higher lvl. I was intimidated when I saw that there was 2 new lvl 70+ mnks and thought that I wasn’t needed any more. I got to know them in the next few days and I realized that I could get some good advice from them and I really enjoyed there company. When you are in a group as large as EK had got there is always going to be times when you may feel that you are inferior but that doesn’t make you inferior.

Quote from Lienna “Thank you for the abuse and rudeness and *gasp* lack of respect. Thank you for a sh*tty experience in this rather sad ls.... “

Quote from Lienna “that some current members will finally realize how much yall are a bunch of thick-headed @#%^s and leave you with nothing but an empty ls, with pearls scattered all over Vana'diel.”

Quote from Lienna “No I wont list the names of people in that ls, cause that is a bit over the top”

I never really got to know you other then the occasional question on crafting, but looking at just these 3 comments, and believe me there was more comments I wanted to address, the majority of the rudeness, lack of respect, and thick-headedness comes from you. To create a post that contains all the things that you said you did not like about us is absolutely unnecessary. I resent the fact that you personal conflicts with a few that you slam a whole linkshell. This linkshell has always been there when I needed them to be. I may have had to wait 2-3 weeks for certain things and sometimes longer, but eventually when people had free time they assisted me. You were only in the linkshell a few weeks is that enough time?? LB2 and AF’s took me a month or 2 to complete and I’m sure I am not the only one that had to wait more then a week to get help. Do not slam a whole linkshell just because you have a personal conflict with a few people. Grow Up! To publicly slander people as you said (abusive, rude, disrespectful, and thick-headed), and also immature.

You make the whole linkshell appear as this quote below,

Quote from Xellith “The members of EternalKnights dont even know why they made the LS. everyone in that LS that never lefted a finger should be ashamed. this game is all about helping others so we can all help each other.”

Which is false.

We all try to help when we have the time you just did not give us the time. No one can please everyone at the same time; we must all wait in line. This game is suppose to be fun and you should be able to do what you think is fun and not have to do what someone else wants/thinks you should do. Let me ask you all this, “If you are in the middle of leveling a craft or a job would you just drop everything you were doing to go help out someone if they asked you.” If you answer is yes then I need help getting Optical Hat < carbuncle mitts < rank7 > sky access and many other things J. I personally get asked at least 1-2 times a hour to help with something if it be a teleport or a coffer key hunt or LB’s or farming or to party, and if I am not in the middle of something I will gladly help.

As stated by many people in many forums about FFXI Ryu is a great person, great player, and the best leader I know!!!

One last thought for the people who are reading these posts, PLEASE don’t judge EK by what one disgruntled former member had to say, but come to know EK, and you will see for yourself. That way you can make your own decision on what kind of people we are.

There is a song that goes “ IF you can’t please everyone then just please yourself” ^^

Well I just had to say Ryu and the EK really helped me out a few months ago.

I posted a request for help on another forum, and quickly got a response from Ryu with an invitation to the LS and a time and date to help me get my RDM AF Pimp Hat!

To make a long story short, I showed up at the appointed time, and had a blast! We made a whole day of it, going from one AF quest to another, killing everything in our way.

Unfortunatlely, I'm a player that just doesn't have major blocks of time to play, which is what HNM and other events in the ls require. I didn't understand this when I joined up but it soon became apparent. Nothing wrong with that, it's a very organized group and they get a LOT accomplished. It just didn't fit my playstyle.

So I THINK I got kicked. Actually I just stopped equipping the LS because I felt so bad that I could not be as involved as was needed to be a contributing member. At some point my forum username/password was revoked.

Am I mad? Not at all. The relationship just didn't work out. There were no mean words, no back handed comments made. I thought it was handled maturely.

My only regret is not being able to help more, since they did me such a great favor by helping with RDM AF.

So leave Ryu alone, she/he is doing a fine job of organizing a rag-tag group of soldiers into shape :P

ok, im going to post the same thing as on the other EK thread. People, you've gone too far. Lienna, although she was wronged in some ways, has had her fair share of problems. Im not going to go into that on this thread. You took things far too personally, you were way too impatient and i dont think you posted a single thing on our website asking for help. That is the main way for us to organize anything because there are so many people from different regions and timezones that its hard to organize any other way and we have too many thing to do to post everything on the MOTD. Im sorry i couldnt help you with the coffer key, and you failed to mention that someone IRL needed my help I didnt go off to help someone else in game, i was on my way to help you and yes, skill up. There is nothing wrong with that, i wasnt going to leave until you got your key. And yes, we do have problems with our leaders on some days. I havent mentioned this before but i got the same /tell as you Lienna saying know your place and i have been on that ls for a good month or two. The biggest point i wanted to make was every person has bad days. Anyone who says that they havent been upset or angry or having a bad day and took it out on someone else in game, is lying right there. I do the same thing although, often enough with stress about finals and other personal matters, i have been rather crabby lately, and i appologise for that, but that isnt what this is about. There has been a lot of things happening lately that i have noticed in different forums. People make mistakes fine, the merger didnt work, fine. What truely disgusts me is that people judge simply from one post. You hear 1/2 a story and thats good enough, these people are horrible. Before you make an opinion, please, please try to find the whole story. Yes EK has problems, yes im an *** at times, but that doesnt mean im someone you might not like and EK is by far the best ls that i have ever been on. I was originally from Inspire where you have to beg on hands and knees for help. i had to wait almost a month for them to finally get me LB1. Maybe i was wrong to ask in help for that, i dunno, but most of the SoB members were gone before even a week had passed. Please everyone, try to hold judgements until you read both sides of the story.

how about we all stop whining crying and complaining and play the god damn game

E-peens galore, I've stayed in low level LSes as much as possible. This is the exact reason.

VENOMOSITY IS OFFICIALLY THE COOLEST WORD EVER

it's on now, sucka

...? I don't understand what this Wade guy's point is.

And you need 8 hours of sleep? How old are you? What job do you have? I constantly run on 5 or 4 perfectly ever since I graduated from grad school. I have enough time to go to the gym at 6AM, go to work (I work at a law firm), come home, eat dinner with my husband, watch some CNBC, and play FFXI.

On weekends I go out with my friends. I go shopping, dining and drinking, and still have plenty of time to play.

Maybe you should learn to time manage better then you can play more complicated games.