RB3 (Do You Need It?)Follow

Hiya, not sure how many people actually know me on the server, but im presently a 63 whm. We all look forward to getting those new spells right? Well i dont know if all of yall watch the price on whm scrolls, but the price increase of Raise III is freaken rediculas. By far its the most expensive spell now ive seen (1.5mil). I plan on taking whm to 75, but if prices keep raising on rb3, people are gonna have to help out the whm population. Cuz take it from me and other whms, we can make a little bit of money but whm isnt the most profitable job lol. And as soon as whm hits lvl 70 everyone is gonna be expecting an rb3. But that may not be an option for upcoming whms, if rb3 continues to rise in price >_<. So if any other whms feel the same as me, plz post ur opions. I was thinking of a full whm strike on the server or somthing until the price drops lol, j/k. Well Happy Gameing!!!

/comfort Celick it's ok man, this happens to all jobs, well I think all :P Like melee need Haubergeon, Sniper's Rings, Hauberk, some other stuff. You could always farm for it :P just lvl thf to 45 and kill as many tigers in Batallia and you'll be rich XD

it has been said numerous times that melee equipment can be resold whereas a mage's spell can not be unlearned.

the price spent on a scroll is a sunk cost, there is no depreciation time.

the main issue with RB3 is that two weeks ago, the spell was 500k. In the last 12-14 sales alone the spell has jumped to 1.5 million gil.

Just a few months ago, the spell was 300k. One year ago, the spell was less than 30k.

The scroll hasn't suddenly become less available, in fact the ways of getting it is still there. (especially so much so in the last 2 weeks)

How many of the melee gear that was barely costing half a million jumped in price by one million (soon to be more than one million, since I noticed a new scroll up today) in a matter of weeks? tripling the price of something already expensive. (think peacock's charm jumping from 10 million to 30 million during the weeks before you can equip it...and then the price dropping to 1 gil the day after you buy it. :p)

There are certain melee gear that you don't resell.

As a thf, I will never resell my emp pin (600k now, was 250k) I will never sell leaping boots (500k, was 200k), I will never sell life belt (60-70k, was 20k) and soon, I will not be able to sell optical hat, which is priced at what, about 800k now?

Yes, melees can sell gear back, but you won't sell your end-game gear back, which other than a few mage equip, costs a bit more.

"As a thf, I will never resell my emp pin (600k now, was 250k)"

Not that a pla to sell mine as id rather not be seein in that ridiculous looking hat as much as possible... but why not sell the pin seeing as its supposedly replaces by the hat once you get and can equip it?

Because the emp pin is dex and agi with the +evasion. For farming purposes it's more useful, as I normally have np hitting mobs I farm, and the extra agi will help me get hit less.

For an exp pt I might not even use the hat, it will depends on the party, the food I use, and the mob I fight. The dex/agi is still nice for a thf.

Yeah that really sucks because WHM can't solo that much and so makeing money for whms is really hard. I don't know why people have raised it this much, it's retarded -.-

LOWER THE DAMN SCROLLS PRICE PEOPLE>< Melees might say this is no prob cause they have to buy armor this much but think about it this is a whm, can't farm better than you.

Ok I'm done now... :P

Vindicated or so one of there members told me.

Just do the BCNM's for it. Like optical hat... just farm the eyes. Its not very hard, especially for a thf.

FYI, when i bought it, i got it for about 22k =P

If ppl are willing to pay that much for it, why not list it at that much? When whm's stop paying 2.5 mil for it, it will go down for sure.

I think this is crazy that the RB3 now costs this much!

We experienced something similar when lots of us started running around in our AF legs... RB2 went from 50k->200K then in a matter of a week or two to 500K. (I haven't checked the prices of the RB2 recently - btw). Having noticed this horrible trend, I bought mine as soon as I learned Raise II. It was under 250K at the time, and was cheaper than Erase.

So now that there are lots of running around in full AFs, natrually the same thins as the RB2 situation is happening.

Supply and demand?
People taking advantage of WHMs?

The best antitdote really, will be not to buy these scrolls. The sellers are paying a rather hefty fee for this, and if no one buys it, itll come down.

The thing is you may not be able to EXP past 70 because you won't have RB3 ready for your PT. Which would be really crummy. You can, put, "Raise III = X {I'm Sorry}" in your search comment (I did it with Erase up to lvl 50) and see if you still get invites...

No PT? Well spend that time to work on other jobs or farm the big money item dropping mobs, camp NMs, work on a craft...etc.... You'll have lots of time on your hands if no one invites you.

Having said so, since there are plenty of PTs that go out without a WHM - it means most may not be too concerned about having their very own RB3er in their PT. Heck, by the time you are EXPing past 70, you'll be EXPing in the areas where 75ers merit points... So there will be plenty of RB3 ready WHMs to help out.

Dynamis / Sky your concern? In those areas MASSIVE deaths will occur...your job is to raise them as fast as possible, and natrually RB2 has less recast time, and lower MP cost. People that do these things are prepare to eat the RB2 anyways, and are instructed to take it by organizers.

So don't be toooooo concerned. We've been trained as WHMs to have every spell ready as soon as we hit that level. However, this 2.5 million is a bit too ridiculous, and I think we should take a stand. DO NOT BUY IT AT THESE PRICES!


======Kindred Seal 30 BCNM "Evasive Action===========
You can also do the "Evasive Action" BCNM with 2 stunners, 1 NIN tank, 2 DDs and a WHM... Obviously you will have to fight it 6 times and hope that on your turn RB3 will drop...cuz no one would trade whatever else items you get for RB3 - as now it's the big money drop. Unfortunately, I don't have enough faith in the Shiva population that some will actually trade away 2.5 million item out of the kindness of their hearts....

1) It was your choice to choose your job that has expensive spells to begin with - you knew what you were getting into when you first looked at the spells you needed at the AH.
2) My job has now been made expensive by people like you.

BIG DIFFFERENCE

1) Your expensive spells will benefit you - farming, BCNMs, HNMs whatever.
2) My inflated spell (Raise III) does not benefit me in anyway.

BIG DIFFERENCE

I don't see anything wrong with people camping Adamanking and getting the scroll. It's not my business. You can get 10 scrolls off the Mob and I won't care. Camp it 24 hours like a gilseller if you want. But intentionally doubling and tripling the price is just evil and malitious. That's low. Have you ever had to buy a 2.5 million spell? I have yet to see a BLM spell that goes as much.

May you be MPKed by many and be refused any level of Raise by every single WHM.

I was planning on having this in my bazaar as soon as I hit 69 on my white mage. Faithfully keeping up with my spells. There is no way in hell I will buy this spell anymore. Either I will have help to camp the NM or I will not have it.

uchipu: the price has not doubled or tripled. The price has quintupled in the last 3 weeks, and has gone from under 25k to 2500k. That's a 100x increase. (I have heard from more than one whm who bought the scroll for 10-30k "back in the day")

If people who raise the price alot for raise 3 expect a raise from you, don't give them one, WHM really doesnt benefit from that, only the other ppl do...