I got MPKed by HOCD!!!Follow

Let me see if I got this right?

You claimed an enemy you couldn't handle because you were juggling a bunch of other enemies and are mad about them not getting the other enemies off you? Or are you more mad about the cockatrice thing? I'd be kinda mad about the cockatrice thing, but considering that it caused you some trouble, how did you expect to kill the NM while juggling that many pets?

I fail to understand. It looks like you were playing a dirty game and got outclassed. Not that I really care, because NM camping is for animals anyways.

Firstly, i do not understand what happened, but bashing our LS on a board because of one incident and without screenshots is out of the question (I'm not saying what you state is true or false, but they would help). And it's Redmamba, not Redmambo.

If Redmamba did this, then Red did it. HoCD didn't do it. If anything, i personally do not MPK people, and i am a BST (we are known to MPK), and have had many things 'stolen' from me and infact, have every reason to kill someone lol. But i choose not to.

It's like me bashing a LS i do not know for 1 person from it stealing a NM from me when only 1 person did. This gives that LS a bad name and disrespects it, when infact you know very little about it.

Yeah, it only takes one member to give a LS a bad name. I'll make sure this thread gets discussed within our LS, and the problem found.

If anything, if you still do need the Moldavite earring i myself am willing to camp it with you. BTW i do not understand how your RNG managed to get killed if he sidewinded the mob to it's death.

"Then Cntrl and Blunt got bomb tossed, Blunt went down, but Cntrl had enough TP to fire of a Sidewinder and kill the mob.

We got the Earring to drop, but when Cntrl got raised, he ended up getting the earring for some reason, what is a RNG gonna do with a moldavite earring?"

That confused me, that's all. If someone casted lots on an earring and noone else did, then that person would get it.. i dunno, it just seems weird. Also couldn't you quatermaster it? It sucks that the earring actually dropped and a RNG got it.

Actually, Skold is not in our linkshell.

OMG stop defending us Tom, you know as well as I do that we're the premiere source for @ssholes on Shiva :D <3


















p.s. just kidding

Edited, Tue Jan 11 09:58:59 2005 by Jehvren

What Tomlionhart said is absolutely correct. Bash the player, that is fine, but do not bash the entire LS. One player's actions should not define the group. I take personal offense to stuff like this because as a BST I automatically get looked at as a MPKer, even though I and almost every other BST I know (which is half of the Shiva BST population) have never MPK'ed someone.

And as far as NM camping goes, isn't there an accepted different set of rules for this? As in all is far in love, war and NM camping? I am not defending the guy's actions in anyway, shape or form, but to quote Tony Soprano "Everyone that gets into this life knows the stakes, we are all soldiers and we accept our fate". What I am saying is, everyone knows about the MPKing that happens with NMs is "acceptable stakes". Everyone that goes to camp one should know that going in and accept their fate.

No offense intended Cillranchello, what happened to you sucks, but you have to know that there is the possibility you may die from MPK when camping ANY NM.

Hay guyz lets go buy the rare/ex earring from the ah lolz.

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hello i'm neorei the el conquistador of Hocd.:)

first off, i would like apologize on the behalf of my LS for any inconvinece for you and your friends. But before you call out an entire LS please know what you are talking about. if you judge a whole LS because of one person this caused unnessicery drama from both side who aren't even a part of the story.

i've talk to redmamba after the time it happened. i was too busy with other LS issues and getting my *** whooped in Tu lia to pay attention to LS chat at the time. I've talk to red and from what i understand is that Red thought you guys purposely slept a gob on reds voke range to disrupt her spamming. this basic NM tactic to win the pull. i can't say it's dirty or it's okay. so red told me he "decided to play that game" with you guys by pulling a cocktrice and putting to sleep then binding it. it wonders me that you have hate cause red did claim the pull and unless you heal him and or he zone there should be no way you could have gotten aggro.

and from i understand is that you got killed from a bomb from the NM and aggro from the gob you slept and another aggro from a cocktrice. to me that is not MPK on reds part but more of a mistake on you part. Please understand that you are in a aggro area and there is certain dangers as of being killed due to aggro. Red didn't have to save you from that gob because he's your claim. all red can do is either wait till you dead to claim the gob or wait till you kill it.

i'm very much against MPK. will not tolerate MPK thru anytype of form. please do not say I got MPK from HoCD. cause when you say HoCD you talking about a bunch of people from my LS and/or myself which is something i will never do.

as for sepukku all i can say is that you know nothing about my LS except for what people have to say and IMHO i think you should learn how to mind you own business and think about what people have to say about you.

again i apologize for any type of inconvince for you and you friends and if you wish to speak more about this please let me know in game. :)

Neo, there were 7 people there. 6 angry EK members who had agreed to split, and 1 HoCD member who won a "Free lot".

Neo, what happened was Red used gravity on the mob to make it red. He then used Bind on it. When a mob is bound, it attacks anything that is in attack range, regardless of hate, party affiliation, or if it's an aggro mob or not.

Example: I was in Highlands, someone bound a sheep. I ran by on my 60+ thf and he attacked me. Sheep does not aggro at all, nor was I in the pt to get hate that way.

It's not exactly MPK, unless the **** weakened the OP right before the gob spawned, then that'd be an issue as well. But otherwise it's just an @$$hole action. And claiming a mob to sleep and prevent voke spamming is annoying, but it really doesn't hurt another camper that much.

A few observations:

#1 - Hunting NM's doesn't have to be this cut-throat.

I agree with Lokkii that NM-hunting is dangerous business, and that people act brutishly sometimes to get the mob. I don't think it needs to always be this way, however. As far as getting the NM (by voking it, using Dia, etc.) that can and should be a free-for-all contest of skill. But MPKing someone is just dirty pool, and shouldn't be tolerated.

When I was maybe a level 25 BST I was running through Konschat and spotted a high level RDM about to engage a Ram. I tried to charm it as a way of 'claiming it', but failed. She noticed I had tried to get it, and somehow released her claim on it, and very politely allowed me to take a shot at it.

It turned out not to be the standard Ram mob, but the NM (Lumbering Lambert, I think), and it started to thrash me, chewing through every pet I frnatically threw at it. The RDM watched, healed me, and then reclaimed the mob. She even offered to give me the drop, asking if I needed it for a quest. I was polite in return, and let her keep it, since she killed the NM. But I was shocked at how gracious she was.

She was camping the NM, and was polite enough to let a newb (relative to her) take a shot at it. Being kind isn't a requirement of this game, but it is a requirement of being a decent human being. What goes around, comes around.

#2 - The action(s) of LS members does reflect on the LS itself.

I think that's self-evident.

Picture 1

Picture 2

In picture one, you can see plainly that the Gob Miner, the mob that Blunt and I had been sleeping. Red got control of this because our RNG(Cntrl) got aggro while from a C*ck while recasting Tonko, while we focused on getting rid of that, Red claimed the gob we had been sleeping and let it wake up on us. Since it was his mob, we couldn't of slept it or handle it in anyway.



This is what he was doing with the C*ck at first, we were able to get rid of the C*ck because he lost his claim, while blunt kept the Gob Miner asleep, Cntrl and I handled the ****, then after this, Cntrl got the aggro from a C*ck and we lost our claim on the sleeping gob, red then claimed this and let it wake up.

In picture 2, you can see the Gob Miner preping for a Bomb Toss, whick took out Blunt. This was Red's mob, then it came for us, me namely because I had built up the most hate after Blunt.

While no, the LS did not MPK him, a member of the LS did. Therefore, it is the LS's responsibility to address the actions of it's members. I apparently read the initial message wrong, and it was a lot worse than what I had thought. That was a really messed up thing to do.

I had a very short chat with Redmamba today, and they did not mean to get you killed, they meant to do what they did, but according to them "I didn't know the goblin was messing them up so much" they did not mean for you to die.

I think Red went too far in how they reacted to the situation, but they're not pure evil either. I think we might be able to get it through to them that these actions that went on is too much, and they won't do it again.

How does Ladyofhonor manage to get herself involved every HNMLS topic?

Why are there people who make posts asking why I post? I don't see why it's an issue for you, whoever you may be.